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| Here's a list of who I think we'd do well to keep hold of and who should be binned!
Out of current bunch I’d only like to see us keep –
All the widnes lads & Flynn (Young talented players and play with passion) [7
A. Thackery (Yes needs to pass the flippin thing more but at least he puts effort in and can defend decent enough!)
G. Dodd (his commitment is twice that of a lot of others, error prone but can also score great tries and pretty strong in the tackle)
I. Morrison (Big loss this year so far, great strong runner and hard in defence!)
L. Patterson (Not the most gifted but plays hard and can create / score a few in this league)
D. Gaskell (player of the year last two seasons! Always beats 1st man!)
J. Duffy (Plays hard, knows the league and puts effort in at least!)
R. Fletcher (Needs to shed a few pounds but is a fantastic player and would be SL quality if fitness was spot on!)
S. Bannister (Looked good so far, no doubt we’ll train it out of him!)
Thompson & Kavanagh (Young talented props, with the right training would be usefull, run hard at least!)
J. Gannon (Bit of experience in the pack does a job but that’s about it!)
S. Tyrer 9The lad has quality but needs to get settled in a team now, and sort kicking :S)
B. Robinson (Looked good and entusiastic and would fight for a place i'm sure!)
That’s about it 19 / 28! Who should stay! (Not all starters!)
? on Mark Smith, his form has dropped and he doesn’t look happy out there anymore and maybe coming stale – the next Bob Beswick? Also not seen enough of Danny Mills yet!
So we need more palyers who cba really!
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| In all honesty is there any point in this ?
I dont doubt the effort of any of the squad.
Some arent good enough though and that includes some of those on your wish list.
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| I think we need to get rid of:
Smith
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Gannon
Fletcher (too injury prone)
Hartley (too injury prone)
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| Quote ="Runcorn Viking"I think we need to get rid of:
Smith
Duffy
Dodd
Gannon
Fletcher (too injury prone)
Hartley (too injury prone)'"
This is a joke right???
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| [uKeep[/u
Loz Wildbore
Scott Yates
Paddy Flynn
Dean Gaskell
Steve Tyrer
Richard Varkulis
Anthony Thackeray
John Duffy
Michael Ostick
Ben Kavanagh
Richard Fletcher
Lee Paterson
Josh Simm
Shayne Grady
Danny Haughton
Anthony Mullally
Iain Morrison
Ste Banister
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Mark Smith - i was one of his biggest fans but he's the highest paid player and isnt performing
James Webster - we need someone a little younger who can take on the line and has speed.
Toa Kohe Love - Great on his day but the clock is winding down
Lee Doran - Not good at all
Sam Thompson - Amazed how he played for Saints, lacks any real aggression.
Jim Gannon - Fantastic worker but his age is catching up to him and we need bigger front rowers. Bit harsh i know but he's getting on.
Brett Robinson - Doesnt do it for me and cant see him staying on
Tim Hartley - Mr injury
Danny Mills - Wasted signing really
I doubt that will happen but if it somehow did we would have mega cash to play with and still be able to keep the core of a very good squad.
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| Quote ="Runcorn Viking"I think we need to get rid of:
[size=150Smith
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Gannon
Fletcher (too injury prone)[/size
Hartley (too injury prone)'"
taking the p155 aren't you???????????????????????
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| Quote ="J20"Mark Smith, his form has dropped and he doesn’t look happy out there anymore and maybe coming stale – the next Bob Beswick? '"
We put Bob in the oven for 10 minutes - 180c. He's risen like a fresh loaf.
The one thing i will say about God Smith. Did you see his reaction last night late on when he had the ball ripped out and ref gave a knock on? He was devastated. You could see the passion in his eyes. None of your other players show that. He's playing behind a beaten pack.
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| Quote ="widneslardboy"In all honesty is there any point in this ?
I dont doubt the effort of any of the squad.
Some arent good enough though and that includes some of those on your wish list.'"
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Come again?
On Smith I don't doubt he's trying but he looks a bit lost and doesn't seem to have a bond with any of the other players which isn't to great! When we conceed / knock on / force an error everyone just trots back to line / scrum no reel questions being asked of the side!
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"
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Mark Smith - i was one of his biggest fans but he's the highest paid player and isnt performing '"
I still think he is trying to do too much and needs to be spelled. Smithy playing for 2 x 20 mins could be awesome in this division still but he needs a capable hooking partner
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James Webster - we need someone a little younger who can take on the line and has speed.
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Toa Kohe Love - Great on his day but the clock is winding down
Lee Doran - Not good at all
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Sam Thompson - Amazed how he played for Saints, lacks any real aggression.
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Jim Gannon - Fantastic worker but his age is catching up to him and we need bigger front rowers. Bit harsh i know but he's getting on.
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Brett Robinson - Doesnt do it for me and cant see him staying on
Tim Hartley - Mr injury
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Danny Mills - Wasted signing really
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Scrap the Cap!!! The Campaign starts now!!
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| Quote ="J20"Here's a list of who I think we'd do well to keep hold of and who should be binned!
Out of current bunch I’d only like to see us keep –
All the widnes lads & Flynn (Young talented players and play with passion) [7
A. Thackery (Yes needs to pass the flippin thing more but at least he puts effort in and can defend decent enough!)
G. Dodd (his commitment is twice that of a lot of others, error prone but can also score great tries and pretty strong in the tackle)
I. Morrison (Big loss this year so far, great strong runner and hard in defence!)
L. Patterson (Not the most gifted but plays hard and can create / score a few in this league)
D. Gaskell (player of the year last two seasons! Always beats 1st man!)
J. Duffy (Plays hard, knows the league and puts effort in at least!)
R. Fletcher (Needs to shed a few pounds but is a fantastic player and would be SL quality if fitness was spot on!)
S. Bannister (Looked good so far, no doubt we’ll train it out of him!)
Thompson & Kavanagh (Young talented props, with the right training would be usefull, run hard at least!)
J. Gannon (Bit of experience in the pack does a job but that’s about it!)
S. Tyrer 9The lad has quality but needs to get settled in a team now, and sort kicking :S)
B. Robinson (Looked good and entusiastic and would fight for a place i'm sure!)
That’s about it 19 / 28! Who should stay! (Not all starters!)
? on Mark Smith, his form has dropped and he doesn’t look happy out there anymore and maybe coming stale – the next Bob Beswick? Also not seen enough of Danny Mills yet!
So we need more palyers who cba really!'"
the reason i think why Mark Smith isn't coming into his game is that he seems to be taking the majority of the blame for the team loosing.
it must be very fustrating for someone in his position.
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| why should we bin anyone when there is no-one better to replace them? We will have the same situation again next year if we start scrapping players for a dip in form.
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| Quote ="littlerich"We put Bob in the oven for 10 minutes - 180c. He's risen like a fresh loaf.
The one thing i will say about God Smith. Did you see his reaction last night late on when he had the ball ripped out and ref gave a knock on? He was devastated. You could see the passion in his eyes. None of your other players show that. He's playing behind a beaten pack.'" Actually in the front row but otherwise fair enough.
I don't agree with offloading him - there aren't many better in this division. Our problem is getting up the pitch in the first place.
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| Smith is given far too much responsibility, but having said that isn't pulling his weight this year, I'd drop him. Keep all our youngsters, robinson looked decent in friendlys, so recall hims without a shadow ofa doubt
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| in response to the initial question:
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| Quote ="manxviking"Actually in the front row but otherwise fair enough.
I don't agree with offloading him - there aren't many better in this division. Our problem is getting up the pitch in the first place.'"
Another thing I don't get is! I don't recall us scoring a try (at least not many!) from outside the opponents 10/20m line this year, yet when we get pens in opponents half we seem to tap all the time even though our style of play and 'skills' seem to say booting it into the corner would work better?
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| Quote ="Runcorn Viking"I think we need to get rid of:
Smith
Duffy
Dodd
Gannon
Fletcher (too injury prone)
Hartley (too injury prone)'"
Do you watch the games Fletcher is a good player just an unlucky yr, Dodd always gives 100% And duffy keep him he is better that Thackeray.
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| Isn;t this question the wrong way round? Shouldn't it be, "who can we get in and who then weill we have to let go to bring him in?"
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| Personally I would have Korkidas after doubts to begin with, but we already have a discipline problem, so maybe that may be an avenue not worth exploring, unsure at the more. Need a lot more fire power up front.
I am almost certain that within the next 5-6 weeks, one of our half backs will go. Would like to see duffy stay.
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| Has the Vikingman, Mark Smith love in come to an end shocker?
We got a good un in Beswick, looks like the Vikings released the wrong player.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"[uKeep[/u
Danny Mills - Wasted signing really
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Spoke to Danny at Sheffield. He has been fit since the St Helens home game !!!! Should be given an extended run in Gaskell's absence IMO, with Doddy returning to centre in place of Tyrer
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Has the Vikingman, Mark Smith love in come to an end shocker?
We got a good un in Beswick, looks like the Vikings released the wrong player.'" Don't agree. BB is/was a good player but his last two seasons with us were hugely disappointing, and tbh, he didn't really impress when we played you.
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| anyone have any idea about the rumour that Webster is coming back to Hull again?
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| mark smith shouldt go hes one of our best
dorans the one i want to go mostly, its like playing against 14 men, with only 12 ourselves with him in our side
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| Quote ="manxviking"Don't agree. BB is/was a good player but his last two seasons with us were hugely disappointing, and tbh, he didn't really impress when we played you.'"
He still set up plenty of tries for us last season though. IMO we've no specialist Loose Forward now who gave us what Bob did even though he wasn't the player he'd been in previous seasons. I'd have him back like a shot.
You have to remember though that in 2006 and 2007 we had one of the best packs in the division. Your best players will always play much better with better players around them and I feel that's what we're seeing now with Smith. To many players putting in average performances is going to bring everyone's performances down no matter what their potential.
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| Quote ="bUsTiNyAbALLs"He still set up plenty of tries for us last season though. IMO we've no specialist Loose Forward now who gave us what Bob did even though he wasn't the player he'd been in previous seasons. I'd have him back like a shot.
You have to remember though that in 2006 and 2007 we had one of the best packs in the division. Your best players will always play much better with better players around them and I feel that's what we're seeing now with Smith. To many players putting in average performances is going to bring everyone's performances down no matter what their potential.'"
You're absolutely right. If we can beef up our pack we'll see some players, who are looking lackluster at the moment, start to shine. We don't need to sack all and sundry.
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