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| Did they just say he was the country's top try-scorer with 34 this season? I do like the look of him. Obviously the SL pre season will be hard yards for him, but long kicking game looks very handy, he puts in plenty of effort. I also think it won't have done him any harm to have had to "boss" a team - remember O'Meley saying on his arrival that FC's upcoming halves were a bit intimidated and wouldn't give the orders out - looking at Ellis I don't think he'll have that problem. Reminds me of Cooke in style. Looking forward to seeing how he measures up next season.
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| Yup that is what they said.
Looks a good young talent but looks like he could do to lay off the pies a little.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Yup that is what they said.
Looks a good young talent but looks like he could do to lay off the pies a little.'"
TBF most of the Leigh squad are carrying a bit of timber. Give him 2 weeks off and get him in pre season early.
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| Needs to slim off, hes only 10 stone off Willowred
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Yup that is what they said.
Looks a good young talent but looks like he could do to lay off the pies a little.'"
Thought that myself,that spare tyre he is carrying needs to go.
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| Think people are making too much out of his size.
If the extra kilos he is carrying makes him more confident to play at the line without fear of getting knocked about who cares and its not as if you see him stood gassed with his hands on his knees.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Think people are making too much out of his size.
If the extra kilos he is carrying makes him more confident to play at the line without fear of getting knocked about who cares and its not as if you see him stood gassed with his hands on his knees.'"
Gary Pearce did ok, although the game is much, much quicker nowadays.
I'm sure Ellis will slim off after a full pre-season.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Think people are making too much out of his size.
If the extra kilos he is carrying makes him more confident to play at the line without fear of getting knocked about who cares and its not as if you see him stood gassed with his hands on his knees.'"
Agreed. Cooke was always a similar shape and didn't stop him taking games by the scruff of the neck. As said, Leigh players all look similar and you can't expect fitness levels to be as high as SL. Give him a full pre season and I'd hope he can step up reasonably quickly. Looking forward to it.
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| quality young kid, a very natural orginising half with a short and long kicking game but what impresses me is his ability to be at first reciever alot of the time with good structure around him and takes the ball right to the line and his a huge threat look at the amount and the tries hes scored, hopefully our starting 7 for next year under our new coach
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| Ellis has always had a chunky build, won't effect his fitness or any pace he may have.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Ellis has always had a chunky build, won't effect his fitness or any pace he may have.'"
for me makes him a better player been bigger hes a huge threat at the line and attracts defenders
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| Good player needs to lose around a stone.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Needs to slim off, hes only 10 stone off Willowred
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| Ellis certainly needs to lose some weight but this needs to be a fine balance of playing size and fitness. He takes on the line to good effect and scores regular on the back of this. I'd be concerned that too much weight loss would lead to confidence issues taking on the line and result in his natural game been affected.
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| Quote ="Farmer Giles"Ellis certainly needs to lose some weight but this needs to be a fine balance of playing size and fitness. He takes on the line to good effect and scores regular on the back of this. I'd be concerned that too much weight loss would lead to confidence issues taking on the line and result in his natural game been affected.'"
He's a big lad but doesn't need a spare tyre to take the line on. A stone pre season will do nicely.
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| What I like is he seems like a real hard grafter, he's not hunting for personal glory but has real desire to get the whole team going, how many try assists does he have anyone?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"He's a big lad but doesn't need a spare tyre to take the line on. A stone pre season will do nicely.'"
Totally agree, just saying that the club don't need to over do it. The lad's big boned
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"its not as if you see him stood gassed with his hands on his knees.'"
In the Championship. SL may present more of a challenge to his fitness.
A good pre-season and he should lose the spare tyre without having to try. That will still leave him with plenty of size to work with.
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| Ok I have seen this kid play a couple of times , well here is one for you all .He is good very good BUT lets see how good he is when we have played him at hooker , fullback , centre , maybe even the wing any where but scrum half because that is what will happen with the coaching set up we have
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| Definitely needs to sort out his defence
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| Quote ="Tooms2000"Ok I have seen this kid play a couple of times , well here is one for you all .He is good very good BUT lets see how good he is when we have played him at hooker , fullback , centre , maybe even the wing any where but scrum half because that is what will happen with the coaching set up we have'"
But hopefully not with next seasons coach.
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| Every time I've seen him play he has impressed me. Easy to see his is a class above in that league, hopefully he can transfer it over to SL. His weight isn't too much of a problem, he can loose that with no trouble, ask Sam after last off season.
We have a good player in Ellis.
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| talk about him shedding weight is off the mark, dropping bodyfat % sure, however doing a full pre-season will see him gain muscle mass as he trains harder (I'm not talking about hitting the weights either) Thus given muscle is around 30% denser than fat his weight may well increase slightly if he drops some of the fat..
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| Quote ="Whiting"Definitely needs to sort out his defence'"
Cause half backs are known for their defence.
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| Iam sure richard agar will take him under his wing and show him the way,as he has done with all the other youngsters at the club.!
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