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| Quote ="Yippee try yay"The problem with the recruitment is the money has come in too late so the top SL players had already signed elsewhere so we were late to the party, I expect we'll be much more active in the domestic market next year. Aside from chucking transfer fees around were stuck between a rock and a hard place.'"
What positions are you talking about if we are to be more active in the domestic market?
The fact that Hardaker,Holmes,Chamberlain are on longer term contracts restricts what we can do..
Briscoe has only next season so something available there for 2026.
Big mistake giving them 2/3 year deals.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Cust is baffling. He's a part-time hooker or halfback cover. We needed a specialist hooker.
The totality of our recruitment depends on the remaining quota signings. Probably need another non quota quality forward as well. May have to pay a transfer fee.
Pessimistic but I cannot see any significant improvement unless we get it right.'"
Its a results business but there is no way with the current squad we will be out of the bottom four next season.
At least two very big names as major signings will be needed to remove the apathy of fans and get them back to attending games.
Personally dont think it will happen as its not only on the field the club have failed but the lack of interaction and involvement with fans by the management has left a very sour taste
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| Its not going to be an overnight fix and im happy to see how it plays out. Having players who will help the youngsters come on is vital, Moy , Charles and Balmforth could be the spine of this club for a very long time.
I couldnt care less if we remain bottom 4 next season as long as we start going up the table and the youngsters start turning into established first team players.
I understand whats trying to be achieved and to be honest I like the way Myler is just honest, rather then the marketing team rolling out some spin before the players are released half way into the season.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Hudds and Leeds still have plenty of holes in their squads. Both will be close if not at full cap too so don't have much wiggle room to improve.
Don't see why we shouldn't be aiming for top 6 with a few more shrewd pieces of recruitment.'"
wouldnt class signing Hardaker,Chamberlain,Holmes and Cust as shrewd
There are no sharp powers of judgement there
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| Quote ="bonaire"What positions are you talking about if we are to be more active in the domestic market?
The fact that Hardaker,Holmes,Chamberlain are on longer term contracts restricts what we can do..
Briscoe has only next season so something available there for 2026.
Big mistake giving them 2/3 year deals.'"
Contracts don't really mean anything though do they? It's a carrot to get a signature but we've had plenty of examples over the last couple of seasons of players leaving before the end of their contract.
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| Quote ="bonaire"wouldnt class signing Hardaker,Chamberlain,Holmes and Cust as shrewd
There are no sharp powers of judgement there'"
Is our recruitment finished? You're like a bad broken record
If we don't sign anyone else then fair enough, the squad will be bottom 4 again....... but it's pretty obvious out business isn't finished yet
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Contracts don't really mean anything though do they? It's a carrot to get a signature but we've had plenty of examples over the last couple of seasons of players leaving before the end of their contract.'"
I see where you are coming from but it still costs the club money.
If for example we want rid of Hardaker at Chamberlain at the end of next season then we would have to agree a pay off.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Is our recruitment finished? You're like a bad broken record
If we don't sign anyone else then fair enough, the squad will be bottom 4 again....... but it's pretty obvious out business isn't finished yet'"
I didnt say our recruitment was finished.
My reply to your post was in response to you saying we need more shrewd signings.
If you seriously think our recruitment for 2025 Asiata apart is shrewd you need a bang on the head
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| Quote ="bonaire"I see where you are coming from but it still costs the club money.
If for example we want rid of Hardaker at Chamberlain at the end of next season then we would have to agree a pay off.'"
I doubt either are on massive deals and we could see a McIntosh/Briscoe or Brown/Aydin deal in which case it doesn't cost us.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I didnt say our recruitment was finished.
My reply to your post was in response to you saying we need more shrewd signings.
If you seriously think our recruitment for 2025 Asiata apart is shrewd you need a bang on the head'"
So we still have scope to make shrewd signings?
Aydin is a pretty shrewd pickup by the way as has Briscoe
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| I don't claim to know what players are on but I'd imagine we'll be trying to balance the cap and get a lot better value for players an example being Hardaker replacing Sutcliffe, we don't lose anything in terms of ability but hopefully Hardaker will allow us to get better cap value, same with Scott/Chamberlain, Aydin/Brown, Briscoe/Mcintosh etc...
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| Quote ="bonaire"more a laughing stock'"
Not sure how we could ever satisfy you B. I think I understand most of the recruitment, given what’s available. It depends on Custs and Abdulls fitness as to how happy I am with them. If Hardaker hasn’t regressed I’m ok with him though I would have liked another quality centre. Clearly we are nurturing the youth which as Sts and Wigan have shown is the blueprint for success. Shame we can’t recruit a Field or French though. It’s going to be a fascinating 2025 and I think we should all look forward to it with open minds
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| Quote ="DarksideDave"eusa_think.gif Any news on Lam?'"
Well Leigh are using his photo on promotions for their pre-match fanzone tomorrow. Which is obviously what they'd do if he was about to announce he's leaving to sign for the team they are playing against.
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| Quote ="TnT"Not sure how we could ever satisfy you B. I think I understand most of the recruitment, given what’s available. It depends on Custs and Abdulls fitness as to how happy I am with them. If Hardaker hasn’t regressed I’m ok with him though I would have liked another quality centre. Clearly we are nurturing the youth which as Sts and Wigan have shown is the blueprint for success. Shame we can’t recruit a Field or French though. It’s going to be a fascinating 2025 and I think we should all look forward to it with open minds'"
Thats what we said about 2024 having strengthened the forwards with some size
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| Quote ="bonaire"Thats what we said about 2024 having strengthened the forwards with some size'"
We're in a very similar position now to where we were this time last year, last year we were in year 2 of uncle Tony's rebuild, people were optimistic about who we'd signed and said we had to use the last two quota spots effectively and we didn't, a few top targets tuned us down and we got Okunbor and Brown, hoping it's not the same for next season with our top two targets in lam and sailor saying no thanks
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| Let’s just trust in the club. They are slowly getting things together and building. Much better building blocks than last year.
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| I'll trust the results next season. Time has taught me that this is the only real indicator of progress and success. 'The Club' has made a right show of things in the last five years or so and as much as I will always be grateful to Adam Pearson for taking the club on, there hasn't been much success. Eternal optimism is for the young and inexperienced.
These days I tend to prepare for the worst to minimise the disappointment that is almost certain to come. I will of course be overjoyed if I am proven wrong, for despite my lack of optimism or confidence I still love my club.
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| Quote ="mullo"Let’s just trust in the club. They are slowly getting things together and building. Much better building blocks than last year.'"
I don't buy this. I see us binning players off but I don't see a significant overall upgrade in quality. The only improvement is that our younger players have gained valuable experience as a result of awful recruitment and endless injuries.
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| Quote ="mullo"Quote Let’s just trust in the club'" . They are slowly getting things together and building. Much better building blocks than last year.'"
As a cynic that's pretty difficult after what's gone on over the last few years.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't buy this. I see us binning players off but I don't see a significant overall upgrade in quality. The only improvement is that our younger players have gained valuable experience as a result of awful recruitment and endless injuries.'"
Surely the likes of cust, Abdul, hardaker, borough and Chamberlain are getting you excited for the new season?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't buy this. I see us binning players off but I don't see a significant overall upgrade in quality. The only improvement is that our younger players have gained valuable experience as a result of awful recruitment and endless injuries.'"
Let’s be honest without the ‘teaser’ of the supposed investment had we made these signings under AP and Clark people would be absolutely losing their minds. There’s no particularly bad players in who we’ve signed but I don’t think it’s out of order to say mostly journeyman and as poor as we are at the minute a few journeyman additions isn’t going to cut it.
This can all be put to bed with a couple of really top drawer signings but there’s nobody screaming out now we’ve missed out on our major targets. If there is decent money available I’m sure we’ll get there in the end with someone, hoping it’s sooner rather then later before what little optimism we’ve managed to claw back since April time is lost all together.
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| I think people need to realise where we are as a club and that will tell you why weve signed what weve signed. We was never going to get top signings, anyone who thought otherwise is living in dreamland.
The only thing this club as going for it at the moment is its attendances and half the players out there think we are a toxic fan base.
This will take seasons, overpriced and over lengthed contracts to get players to come to this club. Let the club deal with that and lets just try to get behind them.
Until we see the club starting to climb up the table, some positivity round the place then we will always miss out on good players.
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| Quote ="DSJ1983"Let’s be honest without the ‘teaser’ of the supposed investment had we made these signings under AP and Clark people would be absolutely losing their minds. There’s no particularly bad players in who we’ve signed but I don’t think it’s out of order to say mostly journeyman and as poor as we are at the minute a few journeyman additions isn’t going to cut it.
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As things stand, I think the 2025 squad is an improvement on what we currently have, but then it could hardly get much worse given the state we are in!!
But the improvement is only (very) marginal and no where near enough to make a significant difference to our prospects for next season, unless Cartwright turns out to have the Midas touch when he arrives here
A team largely made up of bottom-four average players will most likely find itself scrabbling around the bottom-four and I think that may be our fate once again, unfortunately.
Rome wasn't built in a day, as someone once said, and our rebuild is going to take time. We have a lot of mistakes to rectify and we supporters are going to need a degree of patience before we start to see some genuine green-shoots coming through. This is a long-haul back to where we all want to be.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"I think people need to realise where we are as a club and that will tell you why weve signed what weve signed. We was never going to get top signings, anyone who thought otherwise is living in dreamland.
The only thing this club as going for it at the moment is its attendances and half the players out there think we are a toxic fan base.
This will take seasons, overpriced and over lengthed contracts to get players to come to this club. Let the club deal with that and lets just try to get behind them.
Until we see the club starting to climb up the table, some positivity round the place then we will always miss out on good players.'"
It’s a vicious circle though, without some major event creating a lot of optimism (big signings, announcement of investment/change in ownership, great season ticket deals) I can see us down to 6-7K absolute max crowds next season, so many people are just not going to bother with it. Even if we do stabilise things on the field and climb up the table very slightly at that point we then won’t have the revenues to afford better players.
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