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| If it were permitted, I'd take a 24 -0 walkover v Catalan and throw the kitchen sink at the Salford fixture.
A short turnaround AND a trip to the South of France plus, we usually pick up 2 or 3 injuries against Les Cats.
We need to be really canny with squad selection, especially for the Catalan game.
Whichever side we select for the trip to France, it would be a HUGE ask to gain a win (although KR got pretty close yesterday) and we have to target Salford at home.
Also, we need anyone and everyone that can make it, to get down to BV for that game.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If it were permitted, I'd take a 24 -0 walkover v Catalan and throw the kitchen sink at the Salford fixture.
A short turnaround AND a trip to the South of France plus, we usually pick up 2 or 3 injuries against Les Cats.
We need to be really canny with squad selection, especially for the Catalan game.
Whichever side we select for the trip to France, it would be a HUGE ask to gain a win (although KR got pretty close yesterday) and we have to target Salford at home.
Also, we need anyone and everyone that can make it, to get down to BV for that game.'" like I’ve said before the team as put effort in and tried in every game but the execution as been terrible. We should be trying to win every game and improve and get some ideas to get out of it not throw games like other teams
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| It being Wakey there would undoubtably be a fine and points deduction coming our way.
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| Perhaps Catalan don't want to play us and we get 2 points and a 24-0 'result'.
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| [code[/code Quote ="phe13"Perhaps Catalan don't want to play us and we get 2 points and a 24-0 'result'.
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With a 4 day turnaround I would most certainly rest and use some rotation in the Cats game.
Play the likes of Bowes, Green, Batch, A.Walker, Aydin maybe even Windrow.
Rest and rotate where possible. Salford is the one we need to focus on imo.
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| Yep after catalan game it's salford home and hudds away 2 games we desperately need to get something from I know a lot of fans are getting frustrated watching us but for those 2 games it's vitally important that the fans turn up and show the fantastic support we have for our club it would be great especially at hudds to get plenty of fans there it's a Sunday afternoon game so shouldn't be any problem for fans getting there like Friday night games away
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"like I’ve said before the team as put effort in and tried in every game but the execution as been terrible. We should be trying to win every game and improve and get some ideas to get out of it not throw games like other teams'"
I agree with you.
However, the 2 games after the France trip are certainly more winnable games and if we send our strongest 17 to France and with a short turnaround, we may scupper our chances v Salford completely and that would be a mistake.
I hate the idea of not trying to win every game but, other clubs are certainly playing the system and for this one, we should too.
The short time between games, especially with a trip to France thrown in, makes it extremely difficult and that's before a ball has been kicked or a tackle made.
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| The fact some of us are genuinely wanting to forfeit a game 24 - 0 shows how bad things have got!
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"[code[/codeWith a 4 day turnaround I would most certainly rest and use some rotation in the Cats game.
Play the likes of Bowes, Green, Batch, A.Walker, Aydin maybe even Windrow.
Rest and rotate where possible. Salford is the one we need to focus on imo.'"
Agree with this. With 3 games in a week and a half squad management is crucial and the next game is the obvious one to rotate. With Salford & Hudds to follow we need to target those and put any lingering risk of relegation to bed. Send a weaker side to France and rest a few key players like Fifita who has been playing busted for weeks and guys like Lino & Pitts who have played most if not every game so far.
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| With two games being off now will be interesting to see if the teams who play this week will want to back up on Sunday and Monday against a team that’s been rested.
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| Always play the best team available
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Always play the best team available'"
I disagree strongly.
We have to manage the squad to get the best results for Trinity over the course of the season.
A few seasons ago, It was failure to rotate the squad effectively which left us with hardly any players.
We have to be capable of looking forward beyond just the next game and whilst it's not always possible to rotate the squad, we should certainly be trying.
The bigger clubs all do it, with a view to having their best 17 available at the business end of the season.
Clearly, we aren't going to feature in the GF but, having the best 17 one week, followed by the "reserves" the next week isn't going to help, especially with a 4 day turnaround and a trip to France.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"like I’ve said before the team as put effort in and tried in every game but the execution as been terrible. We should be trying to win every game and improve and get some ideas to get out of it not throw games like other teams'"
Totally agree, but what's the root cause? It can't just be one thing, but one thing is for certain we play with zero confidence or joy in most games. Our style is stuttering and that's being kind whilst the errors to use a cliche are truly schoolboy at times.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I disagree strongly.
We have to manage the squad to get the best results for Trinity over the course of the season.
A few seasons ago, It was failure to rotate the squad effectively which left us with hardly any players.
We have to be capable of looking forward beyond just the next game and whilst it's not always possible to rotate the squad, we should certainly be trying.
The bigger clubs all do it, with a view to having their best 17 available at the business end of the season.
Clearly, we aren't going to feature in the GF but, having the best 17 one week, followed by the "reserves" the next week isn't going to help, especially with a 4 day turnaround and a trip to France.'"
Normally I'd agree with you, but what is our best team? Doesn't seem to matter who plays the performances seem the same. So with that in mind, he may as well pick what he thinks is the strongest team, he has little to fear as injuries will have little impact. Hand on heart the only player who makes any real difference is Miller, the other 16 are massively interchangeable IMHO.
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| Quote ="vastman"Normally I'd agree with you, but what is our best team? Doesn't seem to matter who plays the performances seem the same. So with that in mind, he may as well pick what he thinks is the strongest team, he has little to fear as injuries will have little impact. Hand on heart the only player who makes any real difference is Miller, =#FF0000the other 16 are massively interchangeable IMHO.'"
Joe Westerman?
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Joe Westerman?'"
True but I've kind of written him off now, I'm looking more at next season in a way.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"The fact some of us are genuinely wanting to forfeit a game 24 - 0 shows how bad things have got!'"
Would improve our points difference
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Joe Westerman?'"
He's been a huge miss and he appears to be the only player that we have who is trying to organise the plays.
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| It's a massive problem when players turn out week after week and struggle to get a result. The team leaders can only pull the rest of the squad through when you get a favorable result every now and again.
I don't think the squad lack effort but without doubt they lack leadership and when your effort doesn't turn in to a win its only natural to question your own and other players ability.
I don't honestly see things changing without better and more targeted investment, otherwise its a slippery slope for the foreseeable future.
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| It's a massive problem when players turn out week after week and struggle to get a result. The team leaders can only pull the rest of the squad through when you get a favorable result every now and again.
I don't think the squad lack effort but without doubt they lack leadership and when your effort doesn't turn in to a win its only natural to question your own and other players ability.
I don't honestly see things changing without better and more targeted investment, otherwise its a slippery slope for the foreseeable future.
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| Just seen Saints and Cas games this week have been called off due to Covid.
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| Salford at it again ,they say that covid is in the camp and there match with Hull kr is in serious doubt .
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Agree with this. With 3 games in a week and a half squad management is crucial and the next game is the obvious one to rotate. With Salford & Hudds to follow we need to target those and put any lingering risk of relegation to bed. Send a weaker side to France and rest a few key players like Fifita who has been playing busted for weeks and guys like Lino & Pitts who have played most if not every game so far.'"
Well Pitts will get a rest, he’s just got a 2 match ban.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Well Pitts will get a rest, he’s just got a 2 match ban.'"
I've just seen that.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I agree with you.
However, the 2 games after the France trip are certainly more winnable games and if we send our strongest 17 to France and with a short turnaround, we may scupper our chances v Salford completely and that would be a mistake.
I hate the idea of not trying to win every game but, other clubs are certainly playing the system and for this one, we should too.
The short time between games, especially with a trip to France thrown in, makes it extremely difficult and that's before a ball has been kicked or a tackle made.'"
I fully understand what you are saying but you’ve probably seen enough of trinity over the years to expect the unexpected, you simply don’t know what your going to get, we could turn up to Catalan hammer them and lose the next five, win three, lose two, that’s why I think we should try to win every game.
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