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| Any news on the deadline for the forms? I have a lot at home. Trying to avoid this site at the mo as im hoping to travel home from work and here good news on radio leeds i.e. regarding a millionaire new owner !!!
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| probably best get comfy and stay at work and do some over time, the extra cahs may make you feel better as i doubt you're in for any good news soon!! any level headed business man will let you go to the wall and buy you for peanuts, that is unless he is mad and too rich for his own good!!
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| Quote ="HouriganTiger"probably best get comfy and stay at work and do some over time, the extra cahs may make you feel better as i doubt you're in for any good news soon!! any level headed business man will let you go to the wall and buy you for peanuts, that is unless he is mad and too rich for his own good!!'"
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| Quote ="HouriganTiger"probably best get comfy and stay at work and do some over time, the extra cahs may make you feel better as i doubt you're in for any good news soon!! any level headed business man will let you go to the wall and buy you for peanuts, that is unless he is mad and too rich for his own good!!'"
Someone is worried
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Any news on the deadline for the forms? I have a lot at home. Trying to avoid this site at the mo as im hoping to travel home from work and here good news on radio leeds i.e. regarding a millionaire new owner !!!'"
Sarah Banwell at the Planning Inspectorate is proving difficult to get hold of directly as she is out of the office quite a bit of the week.
We are working to the their deadline of 3rd March which gives us a final deadline of Monday 28th February (the end of February) for the Statements as our deadline at the moment. Once I have spoken to her directly I will definitely confirm this and hopefully have more information on the time-line for the whole PI.
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| not at all, unlike others i believe destiny lies in your own hands and we will either be awarded a licence because we're judged to be one of the 14 best companies to put forward their plan. What Wakefield does does not affect our bid IMO - you are trying to climb a rope with greasy hands!! i hope you can rebuild for the sake of your long serving supporters who deserve better.
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| Quote ="HouriganTiger"not at all, unlike others i believe destiny lies in your own hands and we will either be awarded a licence because we're judged to be one of the 14 best companies to put forward their plan. =#FF4000What Wakefield does does not affect our bid IMO - you are trying to climb a rope with greasy hands!! i hope you can rebuild for the sake of your long serving supporters who deserve better.'"
Are you quite sure about that?
IF Wakefield, do indeed get bought by this guy, who we are all hoping for, and he funds the purchase of some quality players, midway through the year we get the nod for NM, and we have a half decent season, do you not think we have a fair chance of retaining a franchise?
I appreciate that theirs quite a few IFs involved but, sources close to the club suggest that this investor is hours rather than days away from concluding the deal, NM is now being looked at individually by the SoS this suggests to me that we will not be waiting too long, and with a strengthened squad we could easily have a fair season.
Added to all that, a big businessman is going to get assurances from the RFL that his venture is secure, perhaps aided by a little sweetener by way of some sponsorship elsewhere in the RFL circles.
Now then tell me again that it doesnt affect Cas/A.N.Other Club/The RFLs plans!!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat" NM is now being looked at individually by the SoS '"
What do you mean by that?
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| The Bespoke timeframe, i looked up bespoke and that is what it means, i warn you i have a dictionary!!!
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| I don't think there's anything special about a bespoke timetable, afaik all cases referred by SoS come under the bespoke timetable malarkey and it's just an attempt to be more efficient and flexible but doesn't necessarily mean it will be any quicker, although it could be.
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| I am led to believe it could make things quicker??
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Are you quite sure about that?
IF Wakefield, do indeed get bought by this guy, who we are all hoping for, and he funds the purchase of some quality players, midway through the year we get the nod for NM, and we have a half decent season, do you not think we have a fair chance of retaining a franchise?
I appreciate that theirs quite a few IFs involved but, sources close to the club suggest that this investor is hours rather than days away from concluding the deal, NM is now being looked at individually by the SoS this suggests to me that we will not be waiting too long, and with a strengthened squad we could easily have a fair season.
Added to all that, a big businessman is going to get assurances from the RFL that his venture is secure, perhaps aided by a little sweetener by way of some sponsorship elsewhere in the RFL circles.
Now then tell me again that it doesnt affect Cas/A.N.Other Club/The RFLs plans!!!'"
look at widnes last time round, they were bought out but still didn't get a license. the rfl can't just simply allow this sort of thing to happen and just let clubs get away with it. Crusaders are a different case as they are an expansion club.
If Wakefield enter administration, which I would think is fairly certain. and the rfl grant them a license they will be staring at a hefty law suit from the widnes camp
cas will get their groud admitted in the coming months and construction will begin, setting their bid up nicely, cas ATM are run great as a club on and off the field, surely Wakefield have no bearing on their bid at all. it's merely optimistic Wakefield fans trying to sleep at night
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Sarah Banwell at the Planning Inspectorate is proving difficult to get hold of directly as she is out of the office quite a bit of the week.'"
=#4000BF"Mr Stone on the phone for you AGAIN Sarah"
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Sarah Banwell at the Planning Inspectorate is proving difficult to get hold of directly as she is out of the office quite a bit of the week.
We are working to the their deadline of 3rd March which gives us a final deadline of Monday 28th February (the end of February) for the Statements as our deadline at the moment. Once I have spoken to her directly I will definitely confirm this and hopefully have more information on the time-line for the whole PI.'"
IA, do we have a timetable for the Public Enquiry yet? I know it was muted a couple of weeks back that we were expecting the dates?
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| Quote ="lilley3747"look at widnes last time round, they were bought out but still didn't get a license. the rfl can't just simply allow this sort of thing to happen and just let clubs get away with it. Crusaders are a different case as they are an expansion club.
If Wakefield enter administration, which I would think is fairly certain. and the rfl grant them a license [uthey will be staring at a hefty law suit from the widnes camp[/ucas will get their groud admitted in the coming months and construction will begin, setting their bid up nicely, cas ATM are run great as a club on and off the field, surely Wakefield have no bearing on their bid at all. it's merely optimistic Wakefield fans trying to sleep at night'"
Why? The rules have been changed since Widnes went into administration. Plus we are constantly told that the franchise procedure forbids member clubs pursuing any sort of legal action.
If we end up with a very wealthy backer and NM on the horizon and playing out of a SL standard ground until its ready, then based on the bid for the [u next[/u 3 years licence, we are likely to have one of the best 14 bids - its as simple as that
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| Quote ="lilley3747"look at widnes last time round, they were bought out but still didn't get a license. =#FF0000the rfl can't just simply allow this sort of thing to happen and just let clubs get away with it. Crusaders are a different case as they are an expansion club.
=#40FF00If Wakefield enter administration, which I would think is fairly certain. and the rfl grant them a license they will be staring at a hefty law suit from the widnes camp
=#4000FFcas will get their groud admitted in the coming months and construction will begin, setting their bid up nicely, cas ATM are run great as a club on and off the field, surely Wakefield have no bearing on their bid at all. it's merely optimistic Wakefield fans trying to sleep at night'"
1) contradicted yourself somewhat, the rules are the rules and for franchise all clubs should compete equally and fairly.
2) member clubs of SL cannot sue the RFL. or they would have been sued previously.
3) i was told yesterday that although FPP had been submitted payment had yet to be received.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Why? The rules have been changed since Widnes went into administration. Plus we are constantly told that the franchise procedure forbids member clubs pursuing any sort of legal action.
If we end up with a very wealthy backer and NM on the horizon and playing out of a SL standard ground until its ready, then based on the bid for the [unext[/u 3 years licence, we are likely to have one of the best 14 bids - its as simple as that'"
The rules have been changed to allow clubs to "apply" for a licence despite administration. It will still be a black mark on the application.
The Crusaders will be looked upon very differently. As they are a New club with in a new area with little or no base support, so it was always going to be tough financially as it is for all new businesses. Wakefield however have had over a decade of Super League and over a 100 years established in a hot bed of RL, and as such will not be granted the same leniency as the Crusaders.
Look at it like this the support that the Crusaders have managed to get together in the space of a year at Wrexham is actually outstanding, so with plenty more work the future does look bright for them. Where as at Wakefield the general trend has been that of decline.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"The rules have been changed to allow clubs to "apply" for a licence despite administration. It will still be a black mark on the application.
The Crusaders will be looked upon very differently. As they are a New club with in a new area with little or no base support, so it was always going to be tough financially as it is for all new businesses. Wakefield however have had over a decade of Super League and over a 100 years established in a hot bed of RL, and as such will not be granted the same leniency as the Crusaders.
Look at it like this the support that the Crusaders have managed to get together in the space of a year at Wrexham is actually outstanding, so with plenty more work the future does look bright for them. Where as at Wakefield the general trend has been that of decline.'"
You seem to have conveniently missed the other points I made as to why looking at the next 3 years if things pan out as are being predicted, ours will be one of the best 14 bids - it is that simple.
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| Also you have to look at this way. We are still in Superleague and Widnes are not. It's easier to not let someone in than it is to kick someone out. I am sure there could be some rule changes implemented to change of circumstances thay have already shown this recently.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"You seem to have conveniently missed the other points I made as to why looking at the next 3 years if things pan out as are being predicted, ours will be one of the best 14 bids - it is that simple.'"
how exactly? by the time the next licenses are handed out how exactly are wakefield going to be in a better position that other clubs?
you said that the rules had changed since widnes were refused?
widnes weren't in administration when they applied, so the rule change hasn't anything to do with that. I imagine Wakefield won't be in administration for long but it's still lingering over them, and the reason why widnes were refused was because there was little evidence to prove the club was a sable company and could survive in super league.
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| Quote ="lilley3747"how exactly? by the time the next licenses are handed out how exactly are wakefield going to be in a better position that other clubs?
you said that the rules had changed since widnes were refused?
widnes weren't in administration when they applied, so the rule change hasn't anything to do with that. I imagine Wakefield won't be in administration for long but it's still lingering over them, and the reason why widnes were refused was because there was little evidence to prove the club was a sable company and could survive in super league.'"
Sorry but the clues are in my original response to your post. Licence is for the [u next[/u 3 years by the time the applications are submitted if rumours are true we will have extremely wealthy new backer(s), an agreement to play out of a SL stadium and NM progressing in the background. This coupled with the community department etc.. will IMO mean we have one of the best 14 bids and on that basis cannot be kicked out.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"You seem to have conveniently missed the other points I made as to why looking at the next 3 years if things pan out as are being predicted, ours will be one of the best 14 bids - it is that simple.'"
I have not missed out the other points I was commenting on the crusaders point. As for the other points, we are yet to see what happens with a new owner, and any promises they might make.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"=#4000BF"Mr Stone on the phone for you AGAIN Sarah"
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She is younger than that mate and never wears an orange vest top to the office... so I understand!
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