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| After Shorrocks nearly had his head taken off towards the end i think Peroux should be arrested and taken to prison! the lad is in hospital with a possible broken neck!
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| Not sure it was to his head, i think it was the sudden jolt from the shoulder charge that could of done the damage. The idea that he should be arrested though is ludicrous. When players start getting arrested for foul play in a highly physical game, thats when i stop watching RL.
I was sickened though by the apparent sly grin on Peyrouxs face whilst Shorrocks lay there
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| Hardly the worst thing to happen on a rugby pitch. It shows why the shoulder charge was banned though.
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| Queue the Saints fan as their usual Ben Flower commentry
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| He could see that Shorrocks was injured but still flopped on him as well could have caused more injury.
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"After Shorrocks nearly had his head taken off towards the end i think Peroux should be arrested and taken to prison! the lad is in hospital with a possible broken neck!
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For accuracy it was a shoulder charge to the shoulder resulting in a whip lash type of injury, the yellow card was reasonable because he got carried off. If the disciplinary judge it on the injury alone and not a shoulder charge to shoulder then he will cop a ban.
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| Bit OTT here. It was a shoulder charge without doubt but there was no contact with the head. If we start punishing foul play based on the injury caused rather than the actual offence we are going down a very slippery road.
There have been plenty of similar offences which have got nothing more than a warning letter from the disciplinary, as frustrating as it is that’s probably all it deserves.
I’d agree the more disappointing side was his reaction afterwards as he (along with a fair number of St Helens fans) seemed quite pleased with the result of his actions
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| It should be a 1 or 2 game ban at most. There was no contact to the head which means it wasn't horrendous, but it's not just shoulder charges to the head that are banned, it's all shoulder charges. They're banned because they carry an unacceptable risk of injury to players.
If you trip someone you get a ban, if you make a canonball tackle you will probably get a ban (and definitely will if you injure someone), same for a high tackle, same for any other dangerous contact charge. Injuries are aggravating factors for disciplinary matters. So if you make a shoulder charge and it results in injury, it would be ludicrous to not be at risk of a ban.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Bit OTT here. It was a shoulder charge without doubt but there was no contact with the head. If we start punishing foul play based on the injury caused rather than the actual offence we are going down a very slippery road.
There have been plenty of similar offences which have got nothing more than a warning letter from the disciplinary, as frustrating as it is that’s probably all it deserves.
I’d agree the more disappointing side was his reaction afterwards as he (along with a fair number of St Helens fans) seemed quite pleased with the result of his actions'"
Terry Newton was sentenced like that when he did Long
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| Quote ="Trainman"Bit OTT here. It was a shoulder charge without doubt but there was no contact with the head. If we start punishing foul play based on the injury caused rather than the actual offence we are going down a very slippery road.
There have been plenty of similar offences which have got nothing more than a warning letter from the disciplinary, as frustrating as it is that’s probably all it deserves.
I’d agree the more disappointing side was his reaction afterwards as he (along with a fair number of St Helens fans) seemed quite pleased with the result of his actions'"
Agreed you can start giving out bans for what he may have done?m,only what’s happened very slippery slope if they do.
His teaspoon after was not needed for sure
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| Quote ="Pieman"Terry Newton was sentenced like that when he did Long'"
Newtons was an elbow to the jaw, and got the suspension it deserved.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Newtons was an elbow to the jaw, and got the suspension it deserved.'"
got less than others that did the same, he got more due to longs injury
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| Quote ="jaws1"He could see that Shorrocks was injured but still flopped on him as well could have caused more injury.'"
There's a big problem, a second attack.
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"After Shorrocks nearly had his head taken off towards the end i think Peroux should be arrested and taken to prison! the lad is in hospital with a possible broken neck!
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The award for most drunk poster award post good Friday goes to.....
Mr Frisk.
Player makes a low, reasonable approach into contact on
opponent, demonstrating a wrapping motion. Opponent spins
away from contact. Player’s back and shoulder make contact
with the shoulder of player, resulting in potential whiplash
motion to opponent. Footage does not demonstrate direct or
secondary contact to the head of opponent.
Player goes to complete tackle on opponent on the ground.
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"After Shorrocks nearly had his head taken off towards the end i think Peroux should be arrested and taken to prison! the lad is in hospital with a possible broken neck!
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That is the best post I’ve ever read. Absolutely hilarious.
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| Quote ="AS108"That is the best post I’ve ever read. Absolutely hilarious.'"
Indeed, proves alcohol and the internet should not be mixed!
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| Quote ="AS108"That is the best post I’ve ever read. Absolutely hilarious.'"
To be fair and just for the sake of argument, if that exact tackle with the exact same outcome and the exact same disciplinary outcome had been arrived at and it had been O'Loughlin on Lomax there'd have been at least 70 pages on RedVee now demanding O'Loughlin and the entire disciplinary committee be hung drawn and quartered and they'd be the mild posts.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"To be fair and just for the sake of argument, if that exact tackle with the exact same outcome and the exact same disciplinary outcome had been arrived at and it had been O'Loughlin on Lomax there'd have been at least 70 pages on RedVee now demanding O'Loughlin and the entire disciplinary committee be hung drawn and quartered
and they'd be the mild posts.'"
We've given up on O'Loughlin and the disciplinary because 99% of his tackles always end up above the neck standard, when he retires he would do well selling clothes lines in the market.
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| If any Wigan player had made that tackle, this forum would have gone into meltdown, and all you lovely fans from other clubs know it...
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| Quote ="Judder Man"We've given up on O'Loughlin and the disciplinary because 99% of his tackles always end up above the neck standard, when he retires he would do well selling clothes lines in the market.'"
Still 1% lower than Jon Wilkin and he can never be accused of cannonball tackles...
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"After Shorrocks nearly had his head taken off towards the end i think Peroux should be arrested and taken to prison! the lad is in hospital with a possible broken neck!
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Far to lenient ,have him publicly flogged twice a day outside the DW and forced fed Dawson’s Pies for a month.
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