Do the Wigan fans think that the £450,000 spent on Fielden was actually good business?

I doubt it very much as the Rhinos signed JP for nothing and that put's the fielden deal into perspective IMO

Whoop de whooo

Has this not been done to death on here, does it really matter?

no,sorry,i'm just an ignorant froggie,please excuse my bad english

had the great privelege of seeing Sam T play at Perpignan a few weeks ago - he IS priceless,hope you can hang on to him
after the match the Dragons had arranged a BBQ and all the players plus Rads & officials etc were present chatting to the fans,eating their food,drinking their beers & wines etc except for young Sam who stood on his own in a corner (chatted to a few fans & kindly signed programmes etc) and the most memorable thing about him was the fact that he was grasping his precious yellow/lime coloured boots as though nothing else mattered.
He had no intention of letting them out of his sight ! - probably slept with them !

Greg Inglis or Billy Slater maybe?

NO.I've watched Wigan since 1964 and Sam is one of the best I've seen.He is the best youngster to come through for a long time .

That makes him about as good as Ryan Bailey then ....

It was Dave Whelans money not mine.. so yes it was great business!!!



Who knows what impact relagation would have had on the club that year..

Fielden was a major reason we stayed up, so for that reason then yes.

He has been good but not great the following years under noble, but this year he has been a revelation and thouroughly deserves his new two year deal.

IMO Fielden needed a new coach after being coached by Noble the majority of his professional career and it has benefited him greatly with MM and Wane now in charge.

IMO without Fielden we wouldn't have won the LLS. I know its a team game but him and coley have been great this year.

Agreed

Players with this amount of talent don't come along very often. Its been fantastic watching him progress over the last couple of years. He seems to still be getting better and better.

When you look at the signings we have made (and Hock coming back) for 2011 - he will be playing alongside Finch next season and behind a pack that must be frightening the rest of SL to death - 2011 looks like being an incredible year for Sam. If he can stay free from injury we are in for some sensational RL from him.

Pat Richards has put himself in the hall of fame this season, becoming a bona fide all time Wigan legend after a superb 2010.

Sam could do it next season, he's very young, but he's that good.

1st time he got tackled on Friday, I thought Hull had scored judging by the cheer.

Like people have posted on here before i got spoiled growing up watching all the talent at wigan and there have been some great players that have put that cherry and white jersey, players like edwards,gregory,hanley,offiah,west,farrell the list could go on and on

Sam imo will be better than any of these in 4-5 years time i had a chat with a guy the other month who's watched wigan for over 40 years (i've watched us for 20+) and we both agreed he will be a wigan legend his workrate,step and speed off the mark is second to none plus the fact he reads the game so well

When i see comments off other fans calling all names under the sun it makes me laugh cause it shows he's doing a good job for us and the whole debate about holding the players arm good players in any sport look for an edge and he's got his is it cheating? No not at all it's good thinking

Correct. Couldn't agree more.

Look at the Leeds fans comments about how Tomkins 'isn't all that' and yet listen to the roar from the southstanders when he gets tackled on saturday (if he gets tackled

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Yeah, let's try and change the subject to something completely irrelevant to the thread, which happened back in 2006.

This is the comment that's priceless.

Bit like Danny Mac on Carmont the other week.....or is it only cheating when it's the opposition?

McGuires was a professional foul. The Tomkins one isnt illegal as he is clamping the ball also. This happened in both games over the weekend, but instead of moaning to the ref they just ripped their hand out and it was play on.

Like Ganson said, if you dont want it clamping dont put your hand in there.

He's a very good player with the potential to be one of the best in the game but he's not there yet. Really looking forward to how he goes in the internationals, linking up with the likes of Burgess and Ellis.

He's done nothing to be mentioned in the same breath as Hayne, Inglis, Slater, Lockyer etc yet though. The comment on Sky about him and Lockyer was embarrassing, then again, it did come from the same people who proclaimed Paul Wellens as the best FB in the world.

Its premature, but not embarassing. He certainly has the potential to be one of a very small group of English players who can be ranked alongside the great Aussie players of the modern era. He is already much ahead of Wellens at his peak. Sam is a player of great natural gifts and an Edwards-esque will to win. He still hasn't fulfilled all his potential, which isn't a criticism, he just keeps getting better and better - I don't think any of us know just how good he can be but he clearly isn't finished developing yet. His form in recent weeks has been awesome.

The rest of SL must be very worried about next season when he will team up with Finch to work with a sensational pack. I believe that 2011 will be the year when - barring injuries - Sam will write his name in the history books as a legend of Wigan and British RL, in much the same way as Pat Richards has with a season in which he has been the epitome of the complete modern RL winger.

Is pulling a player off the ball an edge? NO

Is trapping a guys arm in a position where either the ball will get stripped if he pulls out or get done for holding down an edge? YES

There is a massive diffrence and i aint just saying it cause he's one of our players it's very clever if you cant see it then you know nothing

How old are you mate? You strike me as being of the younger generation?

It's cheating. He's trying to con the ref and milk a penalty. Simple as!

Easily dealt with by the ref, and if he doesn't, then I'm sure the players will have already worked out that an elbow (accidentally of course) into Tomkins face whist attempting to get back to their feet, may just convince him to mend his ways.

And we all can then get on and enjoy the game.

26 but 6 in head

Wow show me in the rules where it says anything about it!

Pulling someone off the ball like what mcguire did is a yellow card and in some cases a red

It's the responsibilty of both players to regain their feet as quickly as possible.

Sam will get it everytime cause of his size whats he going to do with a 15st guy on top of him

By holding onto the player though he isn't attempting to regain his feet. Can get penalised for it, full credit to him for doing it though, keep on until he get's caught.

Well you say that but he doesn't seem to be getting penalised for it and the ref's view (as heard from Ganson's own lips) is "if you don't want your arm trapping, don't put it in there!" Seems fair enough to me.

As an aside to this particular argument I remember last season Sean O'Loughlin getting penalised when he couldn't free his arm because Sinfield had it clamped under his arm. This was even MORE obvious than anything Sam does as BOTH PLAYERS WERE STOOD UP!!! Where were the Leeds fans complaining about the blatent cheating of their captain on that occassion? Strangely quiet, as I remember. Even stranger is the fact that Sinfield thought it was ok in that instance too. Weird that, eh?