which club and on what excellent authority do you hear this

Jacob's Club. Rumoured to be bowing out of the biscuit market soon.

"If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join our club!".

Sad times.

Tony Clubb - he's off to be a pro greyhound trainer.

So why are they getting kicked out of the Brewery Field then -according to todays Guardian anyway ... If I was a Widnes fan I`d be furious www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/ap ... nch-injury `League is likely to be played at another union stronghold later this year with England's international against Wales set to be staged at the Gnoll in Neath on 17 October. That reflects a deterioration in the relationship between the Welsh Super League newcomers Celtic Crusaders and their landlords at Bridgend's Brewery Field, which could also see several of their home matches switched to other venues this summer.`

So why are they getting kicked out of the Brewery Field then -according to todays Guardian anyway ... If I was a Widnes fan I`d be furious www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/ap ... nch-injury `League is likely to be played at another union stronghold later this year with England's international against Wales set to be staged at the Gnoll in Neath on 17 October. That reflects a deterioration in the relationship between the Welsh Super League newcomers Celtic Crusaders and their landlords at Bridgend's Brewery Field, which could also see several of their home matches switched to other venues this summer.`

Quote ="Quadrivium"So why are they getting kicked out of the Brewery Field then -according to todays Guardian anyway ... If I was a Widnes fan I`d be furious www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/ap ... nch-injury `League is likely to be played at another union stronghold later this year with England's international against Wales set to be staged at the Gnoll in Neath on 17 October. That reflects a deterioration in the relationship between the Welsh Super League newcomers Celtic Crusaders and their landlords at Bridgend's Brewery Field, which could also see several of their home matches switched to other venues this summer.`'" disgusting. Where's the respect for RL and SL? The RFL and Crusaders havent shown any with this franchise effort. Im all for expansion into Wales but do it properly ffs.

Quote ="Quadrivium"So why are they getting kicked out of the Brewery Field then -according to todays Guardian anyway ... If I was a Widnes fan I`d be furious www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/ap ... nch-injury `League is likely to be played at another union stronghold later this year with England's international against Wales set to be staged at the Gnoll in Neath on 17 October. That reflects a deterioration in the relationship between the Welsh Super League newcomers Celtic Crusaders and their landlords at Bridgend's Brewery Field, which could also see several of their home matches switched to other venues this summer.`'" disgusting. Where's the respect for RL and SL? The RFL and Crusaders havent shown any with this franchise effort. Im all for expansion into Wales but do it properly ffs.

Quote ="Quadrivium"So why are they getting kicked out of the Brewery Field then -according to todays Guardian anyway ... If I was a Widnes fan I`d be furious www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/ap ... nch-injury `League is likely to be played at another union stronghold later this year with England's international against Wales set to be staged at the Gnoll in Neath on 17 October. That reflects a deterioration in the relationship between the Welsh Super League newcomers Celtic Crusaders and their landlords at Bridgend's Brewery Field, which could also see several of their home matches switched to other venues this summer.`'" Why? The LAST thing SL needs is another club within 10 miles or so of another which is what will preclude Fax I reckon as well and Leigh. But then again theRFL does work in mysterious ways cos I reckon certain "high profile" clubs should never have got a franchise in the first place if the RFL had been "honest". Water under the bridge now and all to play for come 2011. How many new stadia will be built by then? Development schemes well advanced and in operation? I can't wait to see the RFL get round their "system" cos if history teaches anything the RFL NEVER keep to their word. "Framing the Future" anyone

Quote ="Quadrivium"So why are they getting kicked out of the Brewery Field then -according to todays Guardian anyway ... If I was a Widnes fan I`d be furious www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/ap ... nch-injury `League is likely to be played at another union stronghold later this year with England's international against Wales set to be staged at the Gnoll in Neath on 17 October. That reflects a deterioration in the relationship between the Welsh Super League newcomers Celtic Crusaders and their landlords at Bridgend's Brewery Field, which could also see several of their home matches switched to other venues this summer.`'" Why? The LAST thing SL needs is another club within 10 miles or so of another which is what will preclude Fax I reckon as well and Leigh. But then again theRFL does work in mysterious ways cos I reckon certain "high profile" clubs should never have got a franchise in the first place if the RFL had been "honest". Water under the bridge now and all to play for come 2011. How many new stadia will be built by then? Development schemes well advanced and in operation? I can't wait to see the RFL get round their "system" cos if history teaches anything the RFL NEVER keep to their word. "Framing the Future" anyone

I wish they'd all stop banging on about their junior development in wales. They're the only pro club in a whole bloody country. I'd be worried if they weren't attached to local clubs, how hard can it be with no competition?

we'll bang on about it as long as we like. no competition? i'll give you 2 mins to clear your head so you can think about why you've just made the most daft statement possible.

err,,,, there is no competition from any other pro club in wales, cos there isnt one. Crusaders are the only one!!!!!!! Der

Why do Crusaders not own brewery field anymore? Did they ever own it? Why risk having union have you kicked out of your ground.

I think he's on about the competition from that "other sport" who will pick off any talent that Celtic produce like a peregrine falcon who's got five kids to feed.

first i've heard about home games being played else where. mind you the guardian isn't exactly the best paper in the country is it.

glad to see you really put some thought into it

the lease was owned by leighton samuels company, dekor. the football club had a ton of dosh from selling their ground to tescos which apparently they had to spend on a groud by a deadline (dont ask me why!) so they bought the lease from dekor. good business all round you would think. it depends how much they hate samuels and league seeming that they would risk their entire business by ing off their buggest tenant.

Had the RFL given up on Celtic before they got started? For me the decision to move the 'Magic' weekend away from Wales was bizarre. Celtic are struggling for crowds and won't win a game this season, yet the RFL decide Scotland is a more suitable venue for growth and expansion. They should have gone to Cardiff once more and promoted the hell out of it. Any Welshies attending would be prime candidates for a spot on the terrace at Celtic, but because MM is now in Scotland of all places, they won't be turning up to give it a go at all.

The sport is run by idiots.

As long as Celtic are still able to operate then their attendances while not good are not a problem at this time

A win at home will help and eventually they will get one

Long term might be a different matter , but thats for another day

wow thats a surprising post from you

well said.

your wig is on too tight.

The whole of Wales is not part of Celtic Crusaders for junior development though, those are separate clubs, about half of which pre-date the Crusaders. Amateur clubs in Leeds aren't counted as part of the Rhinos club, never mind those in places like York, so why should all Welsh clubs (including Rhyl, which has about as much to do with Bridgend as Wakefield has to do with Northampton) be classed as part of the Crusaders. And before you say it a SL club is NOT in any way shape or form essential for junior development, the midlands and Scotland both have full junior leagues at 3 age groups with not so much as a Championship club between them, let alone a SL club. Junior development should be in place before joining SL, not the other way round (though SL would of course increase it to some degree)

isnt it? says who?
the clubs may have pre-dated the crusaders but the junior sections dont and have been created on the back of the four regional train-on squads coached and organised by the crusaders providing a direct route into the under 16s and under 18s as well as generating new players for everyone by holding open trials.
I already noted rhyl was developing seperately (north wales in shock different from south wales shocker) so what? thats one club.
Err alright mate before i say something i never had any intention of saying. Right on dude.
Thats your opinion, as a sport whether we like it not we take what we can get. Get over it.

Bet they do!

Sat May 23rd..... Celtic v Catalans Live on SKY? WTF are they thinking? An already small crowd will be even smaller unless the Bridgend club manage to pressgang every school kid within 100 miles


FFS.....Sky need their heads looking at.
If Cas brought 500 last week, then the Celts have managed to lose 400 fans since the Quins game. If that's the case, then by the time the frogs arrive, we could well see less than 1,500 at a game....great advert



I would have had the reverse fixture on TV. Games v St's, Wigan and Leeds usually result in our biggest crowds and it may well be the same for the Welsh, but they would be better off showing the games against marquee clubs as against the french, who travel in even smaller numbers than we do. At least you have a chance of a few extra home fans wanting to see the best/most well known clubs in SL........
Calling the people who run this game idiots is an insult to idiots

Could be turning into nomads, article timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... .html#more

Could be turning into nomads, article timesonline.typepad.com/rugby_le ... .html#more

Looks as if it's been lifted off a thread currently running on the TotalRL forum.

Gerald McCarthy... Isnt that who left the Crusaders backroom recently?