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Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties
Leeds: 1175 - 196 (5.99) - 312 - 27 (92%) - 17 - 7
Bradford: 1090 - 192 (5.68 ) - 273 - ? (??%) - 12 - 9
Webb: 120 - 18 (6.67) - 8 - 1 (89%) - 1 - 1
Smith: 89 - 9 (9.89) - 3 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Delaney: 51 - 10 (5.10) - 26 - 2 (93%) - 1 - 0
Senior: 56 - 10 (5.60) - 16 - 2 (89%) - 3 - 0
Hall: 153 - 17 (9.00) - 8 - 3 (73%) - 2 - 0
McGuire: 76 - 14 (5.43) - 11 - 2 (85%) - 2 - 0
Burrow: 58 - 13 (4.46) - 10 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
Leuluai: 58 - 8 (7.25) - 18 - 1 (95%) - 0 - 1
Diskin: 60 - 15 (4.00) - 29 - 2 (94%) - 0 - 0
Bailey: 73 - 12 (6.0icon_cool.gif - 26 - 1 (96%) - 1 - 1
Jones-Buchanan: 51 - 7 (7.29) - 34 - 1 (97%) - 2 - 0
Kirke: 34 - 11 (3.09) - 17 - 2 (89%) - 1 - 0
Sinfield: 39 - 12 (3.25) - 32 - 4 (89%) - 1 - 1
Buderus: 74 - 12 (6.17) - 27 - 1 (96%) - 1 - 1
Lauitiiti: 68 - 10 (6.80) - 14 - 2 (88%) - 1 - 2
Burgess: 51 - 8 (6.38 ) - 19 - 2 (90%) - 0 - 0
Ambler: 64 - 10 (6.40) - 14 - 1 (93%) - 0 - 0
Try Assists:
McGuire X2 - Lee Smith's tries
Webb X1 - Delaney try
Top tackler - Jones-Buchanan 34 with 1 miss. Special mention to Delaney in the backs with 26.
After the much improved handling error stat at Wigan it's shot back up this week. At least the penalty count was won to partially compensate.
The Bradford tries followed:
Penalty - Sinfield
Penalty - Leuluai
Knock On - Hall
Knock On - Jones-Buchanan
Previous Rounds:
Crusaders (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=444197
Castleford (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=444160
Wakefield (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=445241
Salford (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446124
Harlequins (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=447962
Huddersfield (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=448906
Hull KR (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449954
Wigan (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=450842 |
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Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties
Leeds: 1175 - 196 (5.99) - 312 - 27 (92%) - 17 - 7
Bradford: 1090 - 192 (5.68 ) - 273 - ? (??%) - 12 - 9
Webb: 120 - 18 (6.67) - 8 - 1 (89%) - 1 - 1
Smith: 89 - 9 (9.89) - 3 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Delaney: 51 - 10 (5.10) - 26 - 2 (93%) - 1 - 0
Senior: 56 - 10 (5.60) - 16 - 2 (89%) - 3 - 0
Hall: 153 - 17 (9.00) - 8 - 3 (73%) - 2 - 0
McGuire: 76 - 14 (5.43) - 11 - 2 (85%) - 2 - 0
Burrow: 58 - 13 (4.46) - 10 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
Leuluai: 58 - 8 (7.25) - 18 - 1 (95%) - 0 - 1
Diskin: 60 - 15 (4.00) - 29 - 2 (94%) - 0 - 0
Bailey: 73 - 12 (6.0icon_cool.gif - 26 - 1 (96%) - 1 - 1
Jones-Buchanan: 51 - 7 (7.29) - 34 - 1 (97%) - 2 - 0
Kirke: 34 - 11 (3.09) - 17 - 2 (89%) - 1 - 0
Sinfield: 39 - 12 (3.25) - 32 - 4 (89%) - 1 - 1
Buderus: 74 - 12 (6.17) - 27 - 1 (96%) - 1 - 1
Lauitiiti: 68 - 10 (6.80) - 14 - 2 (88%) - 1 - 2
Burgess: 51 - 8 (6.38 ) - 19 - 2 (90%) - 0 - 0
Ambler: 64 - 10 (6.40) - 14 - 1 (93%) - 0 - 0
Try Assists:
McGuire X2 - Lee Smith's tries
Webb X1 - Delaney try
Top tackler - Jones-Buchanan 34 with 1 miss. Special mention to Delaney in the backs with 26.
After the much improved handling error stat at Wigan it's shot back up this week. At least the penalty count was won to partially compensate.
The Bradford tries followed:
Penalty - Sinfield
Penalty - Leuluai
Knock On - Hall
Knock On - Jones-Buchanan
Previous Rounds:
Crusaders (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=444197
Castleford (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=444160
Wakefield (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=445241
Salford (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=446124
Harlequins (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=447962
Huddersfield (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=448906
Hull KR (H) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449954
Wigan (A) - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=450842 | |
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Kirke's stats very poor
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Kirke's stats very poor'"
Not on his own, is he. Eight carries from your most experienced forward over the course of the game? |
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Kirke's stats very poor'"
They show how soft he is in the collision. Legs go to jelly when someone 2 foot shorter and three stone lighter dares touch him.
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I've always been happy with Kirke given his role in the squad but he has been poor this year and has had minimal impact on games so far, maybe he is struggling with the extra workload and responsibility with the injury's.
Hopefully he will improve when Peacock and Eastwood are back and he gets back to playing 30 mins a week etc.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"I've always been happy with Kirke given his role in the squad but he has been poor this year and has had minimal impact on games so far, maybe he is struggling with the extra workload and responsibility with the injury's.
Hopefully he will improve when Peacock and Eastwood are back and he gets back to playing 30 mins a week etc.'"
When Peacock and Eastwood are back I hope he goes back to fookin York tbh.
What is he bringing to the team that someone like Worral or Manning Wouldn't, Clarkson even? |
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| Quote ="G1"When Peacock and Eastwood are back I hope he goes back to fookin York tbh.
What is he bringing to the team that someone like Worral or Manning Wouldn't, Clarkson even?'"
You like him don't you |
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"You like him don't you'"
I think he secretly fancies him really. |
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| Quote ="G1"When Peacock and Eastwood are back I hope he goes back to fookin York tbh.
What is he bringing to the team that someone like Worral or Manning Wouldn't, Clarkson even?'"
Agree, Kirke wont get anywhere near the squad when JP and Eastwood are back and quite frankly I would rather see Pitts and Manning above him next year. |
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"You like him don't you'"
I should do. He reminds me of me. He consider the ruck a place to have a breather and take a few plays off and doesn't like hte rough stuff.
Did I tell you I took the out of him in the bar at Harelquins one year for wearing tights? Would I have done that to Barrie Mac or Jamie Peacock? No way Jose. |
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| Quote ="G1"When Peacock and Eastwood are back I hope he goes back to fookin York tbh.
What is he bringing to the team that someone like Worral or Manning Wouldn't, Clarkson even?'"
He's a great member of the squad, and a key part of the 17 on each of the last 3 GF wins. You shouldn't write him off in favour of an unproven antipodean.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"He's a great member of the squad, and a key part of the 17 on each of the last 3 GF wins. You shouldn't write him off in favour of an unproven antipodean.
Sorry to go all G1 on you like'"
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Who's the antipodean?'"
i was referring to Eastwood |
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"He's a great member of the squad, and a key part of the 17 on each of the last 3 GF wins. You shouldn't write him off in favour of an unproven antipodean.
Sorry to go all G1 on you like'"
I don't think Kirke's input in last years GF was that 'key' TBH.
Kirke got back into the reckoning after the ousting of JT in '07. When he came back from injury. He offered a safe pair of hands and was a steadying influence. Didn't drop much ball, good tackler, attracting a few defenders when on the ball and looked for a quick PTB. In short he was a coaches pick for those reasons. He wouldn't win a game but he sure as hell would be steady enough to not come up with the big error or blunder.
That was fine with me and his selections in the last 3 GF show this.
BUT this season his performance hasn't been there and his work ethic is off the pace. He seems to put the same stint in regardless of whether he's on the pitch 25m or 45m. He has needed to step up a level this season but has failed to do so. He's a big unit and is towing out there with the added game time he's having to do. But rather than relishing the opportunity he's letting it overcome him.
For me I always judge on form. And Ambler is doing Kirke's job better than Kirke!! He's the steadying influence that Kirke once was over the last few games. |
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This question sums Kirke up at present:
Is he an attacking prop or defensive prop???
If your answer is 'errrrm' then that speaks volumes!!!!
(the actual answer is neither!!!)
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I don't think Kirke's input in last years GF was that 'key' TBH.
Kirke got back into the reckoning after the ousting of JT in '07. When he came back from injury. He offered a safe pair of hands and was a steadying influence. Didn't drop much ball, good tackler, attracting a few defenders when on the ball and looked for a quick PTB. In short he was a coaches pick for those reasons. He wouldn't win a game but he sure as hell would be steady enough to not come up with the big error or blunder.
That was fine with me and his selections in the last 3 GF show this.
BUT this season his performance hasn't been there and his work ethic is off the pace. He seems to put the same stint in regardless of whether he's on the pitch 25m or 45m. He has needed to step up a level this season but has failed to do so. He's a big unit and is towing out there with the added game time he's having to do. But rather than relishing the opportunity he's letting it overcome him.
For me I always judge on form. And Ambler is doing Kirke's job better than Kirke!! He's the steadying influence that Kirke has been over the last few games.'"
Don't let me little dig at G1 hide my feelings on this season's Kirke. He's been gash whenever I've seen him.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Don't let me little dig at G1 hide my feelings on this season's Kirke. He's been gash whenever I've seen him.
Its the girly hair IMO'"
G1 can take the little digs..........
.......plenty of padding.
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Kirke is a road block in our attacking line. Everytime the ball comes to him he just dies with the ball and the attack stops. He has no offload game, he's not that mobile for a back rower, and for his size he doesn't punch his weight in attack or defence. In a fully fit 17, he shouldn't be in it IMO.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"i was referring to Eastwood'"
[i"You shouldn't write him off in favour of an unproven antipodean."[/i
I was being nice to Kirke but to compare him and Eastwood is IMO 
I honestly thought you meant one of the youngsters G1 mentioned. |
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"[i"You shouldn't write him off in favour of an unproven antipodean."[/i
I was being nice to Kirke but to compare him and Eastwood is IMO
I honestly thought you meant one of the youngsters G1 mentioned.'"
Well using similar sentiments to G1 and Buderus, Eastwood has been injury prone and not proved anything at Leeds in his 18months at the club, so why would we dispose with a 3 times GF winning forward. |
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Well using similar sentiments to G1 and Buderus, Eastwood has been injury prone and not proved anything at Leeds in his 18months at the club, so why would we dispose with a 3 times GF winning forward.'"
If the cap fits.....  |
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| Quote ="thebloodbath".......plenty of padding.
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| Quote ="G1"You'll hurt my feelings.'"
Bless.
On a personal note - 'man padding' is just a frustration as it makes the 'reach around' that little bit trickier.
Wouldn't you agree? |
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Bless.
On a personal note - 'man padding' is just a frustration as it makes the 'reach around' that little bit trickier.
Wouldn't you agree?'"
I prefer to reach underneath. |
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| Quote ="G1"I prefer to reach underneath.'"
That's where me and you differ.
You simply have no class.
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