From what I can remember is, the N.H.S is in crisis, bookmarked with Aretha Franklin has retired!

Don't get me wrong, I understand the news has to end on a high, otherwise many more people would be suicidal.

But if Aretha Franklin retiring is as good as it gets, it's not good. (T.B.H. I wouldn't have put a bet on either way, to whether she was alive or dead.)

SHOCK HORROR the N.H.S. is in crisis - under a Tory Government an'all.

If the people who used the N.H.S. realised this, they would always vote Labour, do they really think the Conservative Politicians & the wealthy backers use the damn thing?

And before you start, the Labour Politicians will probably go private too, but at least they chucked more money at it.

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You'll live long enough to spend six hours in a hospital corridor.

Shock horror, it's the Tories fault, not the years of Noo Labour wasting money, illegal wars, fighter planes that cant, errm, fight, spending millions in europe and across the world instead of looking closer at home.

Yep, all the Tories fault

I saw a fim today, oh boy
The English army had just won the war

NHS spending went up under Labour - it has gone down under the Coalition/Tories, as has Social Care funding, which adds pressure to A&E and other arms of the NHS; and lo and behold, we have a major crisis in the service. It's hardly rocket science...

Cue the demonization of Junior Dr's, NHS Managers, immigrants - anything to deflect from the fact that the NHS is being deliberately undermined to prepare it for the big privatisation rescue package.

Where did I say it was all the Tories fault, I was referring to the N.H.S.

But why not blame everything on Labour, they have been in power for thirty odd percent of the last forty years after all.

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And so it begins!

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Perhaps it's time that the Tories stopped trying to work out how to give the better off in society tax cuts and did something that the LibDems (remember them) have been advocating for a while, put 2p on income tax to directly increase Health/Welfare spending.
It's no coincidence that having had 8 ? years of austerity cuts, there is now mounting pressure on the NHS.

Although some of the wealthy members of the population with their additional health insurance may not need the NHS as much, there is no doubt that the rest of us most definitely do.
The smoke screen of "health tourists" and people going to A & E when the should have gone to their GP, is just an utter myth.
These things have gone one for ever, just like hoax calls to 999 and the rest.

The bottom line is that for the service that we all want, there is not enough being spent.
Somebody with the ability to change things needs to grow some b*lls and be brave enough to admit that additional revenue is needed.
It can be gleaned through income tax or N.I. Simple.

A fim? Is that slang for a lady's sexy part?
Who did the English army beat?

Didn't they try and beat a load of Zulu's at Rourkes Drift?

They already have - the Tories know it needs additional revenue and will achieve that by privatisation; the end result is that those of us without the benefit of private healthcare will need insurance to fund our treatment, like the wonderful US model, where 650,000 people go bankrupt every year due to medical bills they can't pay.

We are standing by and watching the NHS get kicked to death by people who will never need to use it; it's very sad.

Yep. And very deliberate. The Tories gave up long ago on trying to privatise the NHS lock stock and barrell and instead moved to a piecemeal, weaken and sell off bits of it at a time. Happily assisted by the Labour Party moving to the Right with selling NHS assets and departments plus of course the increase of commissioning from private providers.

I think an equally big scandal was all of the new schools and hospitals that were built under the Blair government that will never be owned by the state and "we" will be paying rent for evermore.
A shocking financial decision, that allowed new facilities to be built and not "paid for".

Back to the NHS.
Why is it that each new government has a shake up of the NHS and it usualy ends up with yet another layer of management.

I think this is a serious point. The NHS and Education should be taken out of the party political system and run by a panel of experts in their fields; I'm involved in both in a professional capacity, and watching the cyclic reorganisation that happens as they become political footballs to be kicked around as a result of electioneering, is very depressing - and has a direct impact on the quality and outcomes in both services. How can it be credible that Michael Gove, who has never taught a class in his life, and Jeremy Hunt, who has no medical background whatsoever, can be in charge of such vital and complex organisations? It makes no sense.

It makes every sense, they dont have a predudiced position and dated opinions, if I VOTE for a party then I want THEM to run things. I just wish we had someone a little harsher on the handout state.

Whats your thoughts on the Bank of England?

And what does education and the NHS have to do with your Daily Mail-esque perception of a handout state?

The more posts I read of yours, the more you remind me of a certain poster who used to post on here and the FC board (they and their two subsequent usernames got banned).

While we are at it, how about euthanizing the disabled and demonizing the poor so we don't have to give handouts to them?

Now where and when did that happen? Hmm......

Godwin's Law - the thread is over.