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| Clint Newton - 2012/13?
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is that overseas signings done then? or can fisher and/or vella get the dispensation for being in the sl since a certain time?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Clint Newton - 2012/13?
Michael Vella - 2011
Ben Fisher - 2011
Jake Webster - 2010
Michael Dobson - 2010
Ben Galea - 2010
Daniel Fitzhenry - 2009
Rhys Lovegrove - 2009
Makali Aizue - 2009
Stanley Gene - 2009
is that overseas signings done then? or can fisher and/or vella get the dispensation for being in the sl since a certain time?'"
Fisher and Vella are both entitled to dispensation i believe.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Fisher and Vella are both entitled to dispensation i believe.'"
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Fisher and Vella are both entitled to dispensation i believe.'"
Only in 2011 when they renew their deals.
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| Quote ="The Kings of Hull"Only in 2011 when they renew their deals.'"
really? seems a odd rule?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"really? seems a odd rule?'"
Think its available for 1 contract extension when the contract is extended (so what will happen to stan and makali I dont know) but this will probarbly change by mid way through the season.If UEFA get there wish of making teams have 6 homegrown players in their starting 11 then I feel this may type may get adopted and allow unlimited overseas players again.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"really? seems a odd rule?'"
You expected anything else?
Given Rovers large overseas contingent, this rule effects us more than most, so I've been trying to keep up with its, erm, 'evolution', shall we say? It isn't easy.
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| Quote ="The Kings of Hull"Only in 2011 when they renew their deals.'"
Fisher said when he signed his last deal it would be his last.
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| I think the signs are pretty clear that this will be Stan's last season at the club, Macca and Lovegrove seem to be getting quite a lot of game time but I think at least one of them will go at the end of the season too.
I suspect Fitzy will also leave.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"I think the signs are pretty clear that this will be Stan's last season at the club, Macca and Lovegrove seem to be getting quite a lot of game time but I think at least one of them will go at the end of the season too.
I suspect Fitzy will also leave.'"
Agree.
This season is a big one for Rhys. If he continues to show the improvement that he has done from the early pre- season friendly form then you never know, he may play himself into a new contract.
I have been impressed with his last two performances, the onus is on Rhys to keep/improve the standard he has set for himself.
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| I dont believe all is as clear cut with Lovegrove just yet and there are still avenues to go down to claim home grown status.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Clint Newton - 2012/13?
Michael Vella - 2011
Ben Fisher - 2011
Jake Webster - 2010
Michael Dobson - 2010
Ben Galea - 2010
Daniel Fitzhenry - 2009
Rhys Lovegrove - 2009
Makali Aizue - 2009
Stanley Gene - 2009
is that overseas signings done then? or can fisher and/or vella get the dispensation for being in the sl since a certain time?'" As far as I understand it any player that had a SL contract pre Jan 2008 could on renewal apply and be granted fed trained status which would mean that Clint is now fed trained if he so wished and in fact the only player on our books that isn't applicable is Dobson.
This ruling stays with the player even if they change clubs after they have been granted the fed trained status.
And btw I dont like it but that is how I belive it works.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"I dont believe all is as clear cut with Lovegrove just yet and there are still avenues to go down to claim home grown status.'" I think the new ruling as I have mentioned above has made the situation is he home grown or fed trained.
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| The dispensation applies to players signed before July 2007 when the original rules where introduced on the grounds it's not fair on the players concerned to just "get rid" if they plan to stay with the same team.
This dispensation would apply to Vella, Fisher, Makali & Stan even though they still count against the quota when signing [iother[/i players.
Lovegrove got a 2 year dispensation though as Nick says, there are avenues to go down regarding the homegrown rule with him arriving here when he was only 20 which was a pretty big deal for a 20yr old moving from Aus.
As it stands we have 7 players that count against the 8 spots we're allowed and with the quota going down to 6 next season, I assume someone else will have to make way.
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| Quote ="General Zod."The dispensation applies to players signed before July 2007 when the original rules where introduced on the grounds it's not fair on the players concerned to just "get rid" if they plan to stay with the same team.
This dispensation would apply to Vella, Fisher, Makali & Stan even though they still count against the quota when signing [iother[/i players.
Lovegrove got a 2 year dispensation though as Nick says, there are avenues to go down regarding the homegrown rule with him arriving here when he was only 20 which was a pretty big deal for a 20yr old moving from Aus.
As it stands we have 7 players that count against the 8 spots we're allowed and with the quota going down to 6 next season, I assume someone else will have to make way.'" This is where it get confusing because the way it was worded at the time would suggest it was any players signed before the actual 2008 season started.
Not saying your wrong but that was the impression at the time.
Surely if rules were brought in during July 07 then it would be strange as that is mid season.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"This is where it get confusing because the way it was worded at the time would suggest it was any players signed before the actual 2008 season started.
Not saying your wrong but that was the impression at the time.
Surely if rules were brought in during July 07 then it would be strange as that is mid season.'"
July '07 is when the original rules were set which is why it was a reference point when the dispensation was introduced late last year and players signed after July '07 count against the quota.
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| Quote ="General Zod."July '07 is when the original rules were set which is why it was a reference point when the dispensation was introduced late last year and players signed after July '07 count against the quota.'" Sorry mate but [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/news_item.php?id=12114THIS[/url says diffrent.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Sorry mate but [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/news_item.php?id=12114THIS[/url says diffrent.'"
Cool, just thought it was the first time they were introduced.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Cool, just thought it was the first time they were introduced.'" No problems.
Like I said it does lead to the rather strange situation where everyone of our players Dobson aside on renewal will be fed trained if they so wish, As taking Newton into account I would assume that on signing of a new deal his old contract would be classed as 'ended' and I can't see why anyone would turn down the fed trained status.
So Clint is probably now an aussie fed trained player and is completly free to play where ever he want's with no restrictions what so ever.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"No problems.
Like I said it does lead to the rather strange situation where everyone of our players Dobson aside on renewal will be fed trained if they so wish, As taking Newton into account I would assume that on signing of a new deal his old contract would be classed as 'ended' and I can't see why anyone would turn down the fed trained status.
So Clint is probably now an aussie fed trained player and is completly free to play where ever he want's with no restrictions what so ever.'"
As far as I'm aware the deal he just signed only starts at the end of his current one, therefore he is still classed as overseas until then.
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| Quote ="The Kings of Hull"As far as I'm aware the deal he just signed only starts at the end of his current one, therefore he is still classed as overseas until then.'" Then he is fed trained next year either way he comes off the quota .
Dont agree with it myself but there it is.
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