So you started it then? Hold your head in shame.

I think a lot of people at Rovers speak very highly of the work Chester has done this season with the reserves and first team.
He seems to have intelligently brought several of the under 18s into and out of the reserves throughout the season culminating in 4 of our starting pack last week that hammered Salford away been under 18s. (Jon Gay, Gareth Moore, Scott Taylor and Alex Everitt.)

My point was that the ones i named above were all rumoured to be heading from FC to Rovers.

I dont remember anyone every saying Dobson was rumoured to be moving from Rovers to FC. We were interesting in signing him before he was a rovers player but didnt match his valuation of himself as you guys did. Thats why i was questionning the relevance of mentioning him here, different scenario altogether.

As well you know mate ive always spoken highly of Chezzie anyway, be it as an FC player or a Rovers player/coach. He commands a high level of respect.

Exactly that, you have some great players that for some reason do not play as a team.

Berrigan came with a great reputation but according to some has not lived up to it, but who else in the present Hull team could be classed as great ?

Fair point, however apart from Briscoe I am struggling to think of who you have who would be classed in the same league as Berrigan.

TBF there are very few players in Super League who could be classed as great.

If you change the great to very good then that is probably more realistic.

I would strongly agree with that. The term "great" gets handed out far too easily in my opinion. The current Hull and Rovers sides have some good players and some very good players but do Hull have a Steve Norton or Rovers a Roger Millward because they were great players. I dont think so.

Dont belive everything you are told theres a good chap

Until he remembers who Agar scapgoated, Or until Agar does it again

Goiod post mate

Its tough been a pro player and sometimes you need to take responsibility for your actions because it is scrutonised by everyone. Craig hall will be a better player and person for all the tough times I reckon.

Serious question.
Who is the highlighted part attributed to, Craig Hall or Agar?

Many games Craig Hall dropped the proverbial which cost the team. We all knew his talent but he was raw to say the least. Remember the KC derby this year?

If you are blaming Agar then that is your beef. Peter Sharp once blamed Hall for losing a game in London by missing all his kicks. End of the day he did!

Responsibility.

Craig Hall has gone away and worked on his game, a loan spell at Widnes and recent form would suggest he is getting stronger. Not the finished article but a hell of a talent.

I've not got a beef with either,
it's just that a lot of your fans blamed Agar, and some blamed Hall, but having seen Craig on TV I could see how his confidence had completely gone, and the fans were on his back, but there were people screeming he should be brought back and Agar shown the door,
The sentence "sometimes you need to take responsibility for your actions because it is scrutonised by everyone" could have been attributed to either,
Like I said it was a serious question, and not a snipe at either.

I hope I answered your query. Both still have a lot to prove.

Agar was at fault for playing him out of position but in the backs we had Tony, Byrne, Briscoe and Raynor out and R Horne and Thorman started the season OK in the halves. That said, Hall was a disaster at FB, so awful that I thought we should get rid. His handling, defence and decision-making were terrible. He's only really got back in as Yeaman and Briscoe have both been injured, but has looked a different player since his loan spell. He still has brain explosions, but his knack for finding the try-line is uncanny. You've got a good 'un there and I'll be very disappointed to see him pull on the red and white shirt next season. Assuming the OP is in full possession of all the FACTS, of course.

Don't know where he will end up, but wish him well whatever he decides is right for him, on your other point, I thought Briscoe was a winger, so I really couldn't understand why Agar played Hall out off position, then had the temerity to blame Hall, and some of his recent comments regarding the FC players seemed rather strange, considering he's the coach.

Which comments did you find strange out of interest?

I find these posts very strange, considering there are rules in place about talking to players under contract, (well for 4 more days) how can he have already signed a contract

while he's under contract with Hullicon_rolleyes.gif if you had posted this in September, it may have had some creedence.

Hall is under contract at FC until end 2010.

They need to go back to basics.(Thats his job)
It leaves me questioning where rugby sits on the list of priorities of some of our players (He's incharge of club discipline).
The fans are having a detrimental effect on our performance.(It's up to him to change that and the fans have a right to voice there frustration).

I didn't know that but,
It makes the original post even more bizaar then

Before answering I should say that Agar has it all to prove to me as a head coach.

Back to basics is down to Hull's inability to play basic rugby. I think both Agar and (well paid) players are to blame.

Questioning players priority is a big issue with me and Agars culling so far I totally agree with. This culling is a few years too late but at least he sees it and is walking the walk. Good riddance to the slackers.

The fans do play a part and booing aint my thing. Whilst I can see the fans angle I will always support MY team. TBF to Agar he was asked directly by a journo 'Did the crowd not help by booing?' What does he say?