Typo.

so Tom Briscoe is the sole reason England lost, you really are a complete loon

I'd give it up, fella. Over the last 48 hours and 100 odd posts, he's gone from a relatively predictable Fox is faster than Briscoe to comparing Fox to Offiah, to saying Briscoe vomited through the trauma of being unable to play at international level, that he is unable to play at all in the 3/4s, plus that it was his withdrawal that led entirely to England playing better in the 2nd half. Imagine if Briscoe has a good season in 2010 and Fox doesn't.

Imagine if Briscoe becomes the player he could be, is picked in the dream team on merit & is easily one of the best 2 English wingers (or probably centres) in the comp for 2 seasons. Would you then expect him to be playing for England, or overlooked for a youngster who shows potential?

Briscoe did nothing wrong yesterday, the game just passed him by. Poor lad. Hope his confidence doesn’t get knocked by this.

I reckon Fox would probably have caught Inglis, but catching him & bringing him down isn’t the same thing…& they’d probably have scored on the next play anyway.

Yeah, Fox can make mistakes, but he’s a threat every time he carries the ball & kicking to him in broken play is always a risk. Young Briscoe is more solid but just doesn’t carry the same threat…not yet anyway. His time will come. He doesn’t deserve to be dropped on yesterdays performance, but Fox has earned his chance over the last 2 seasons & IMO should be given a go.

As for the rest of the game Smith & McGuire seem to be taking most of the flack here, but weren’t they left as badly exposed as poor Briscoe? Who would have done better?

Every time the Aussies poured through our right centre they had more runners than we had defenders. Did anybody notice any covering forwards?

This is the problem with playing props in the back-row. If you sacrifice mobility for power you’ll always be vulnerable to a quick shift of the ball…& who does this better than Thurston & Lockyer?

If we get to play them again we need to be more mobile.

Very good and fair post. Over the last 24 hours the "discussion" has been turned into a witch hunt aginst Briscoe on here and the VT by your learned friend, with the statements about Briscoe's weaknesses and Fox's strengths being exaggerated 10-fold. Fox will do well to live up to this billing, good player though he is.

We have a winner.

Why? I assume you'd pick out your database full of quotes to manufacture a point because your not content simply to talk about the game without making references to past quotes - you really are a sad low-life...

Nope. Don't think I ever said that in those terms at all.

From being a witch hunt against Fox you mean by the original poster?

I wish Briscoe well like all the young players coming through the ranks, I just don't think he's good enough as an athlete to international RL.

Not capable of providing an counter debate I see. Hardly surprising considering you thought your team would finish 3rd back in 2008.

We know. But repeating what you think thirty odd times on two different forums doesn't make it any truer.

It just makes you incredibly boring.

Fortunately not tragic enough to resort to personal insults, however. Read the AUP. You wouldn't want to risk being unable to post 100+ times in 24 hours about the international inadequacies of a 19-year-old, would you?

How sad are you?? feel quite sorry for you, if all you can do is knock a poor kid on his debut against the best team in the world, i can only imagine your delight as you was sat watching Tom, marking him down, eagerly awaiting your chance to open up a thread on how dire he is??? ha ha ha your such a silly person, how did you think your own Briscoe do? to me he looked like what he is......... a second rate Radlinski, bring on the Fox against the kiwis, see how good he really is!!!!

i think you'll find it was'nt his debut, and by the last tournement, the kiwi's are the best. silly boy.

Irony alert! FWIW I thought Shaun had a pretty decent game.

Briscoe got caught out because of the ineptitude of a coach playing someone who's off to Rugby Yawnion . Smith's defence is shocking and was cruelly exposed in the World Cup and the game over the weekend. Gave Inglis far too much respect and room . Briscoe has been unfortunate to have such a crap centre playing for England.

yeah yeah, worded completely wrong, i meant his first against Australia, you'v got to admit your man ZZZZZod is a bore, im not a troll, and wouldnt post on a board for the sake of it, he just needs to realise how silly he looks!! and for what its worth, Sean Briscoe, didnt deserve my comment!!!!!
And Australia are the best in the world!!!

agree, well posted

very good post... whats general zod gotta say about that then?

The bottom line is I post my opinion then FC fans gob off without providing any real constructive response instead of talking about the game. That's why these threads go the way they go - because moron FC fans don't seem to have faith in their own RL knowledge to put their opinions on the line.

I didn't take pleasure in seeing Tom Briscoe fail it's just I'm a passionate Englishman who wants to see his country do well.

If you're that concerned about the nature of this thread, then maybe you'd do well to tell your fellow FC fan "Chris1953" to think a little before gobbing off on here about one of our players.

At the end of the day, an FC fan has come on this board and gloated about Tony Smith's foolish decision to pick Briscoe in front of Fox and that's all well and good if Briscoe would have cut the cheese but he didn't and it's my opinion that he's simply not got the attributes to cut it at this level.

Still like "Chris1953" said about Fox; "Maybe next time..."

general zod, you clearly havnt got a life, how many posts in the last 2 days???

I'm sure Mrs B can answer that. Afterall, when it comes to not having a life, she surpasses even GZ.

could of swore as i asking general zod!

oooooooooh mrs