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| Quote ="rover49"I will leave the running of our club to the successful businessmen who are running it now, I doubt they are panicking about our finances, just getting on with the long term plan they have had in place since we began the promotion year. I scroll past the long winded crap and leave the business end to the ones who really know and not some wannabe on RLFans.'"
As ive said on another thread, those succesful businessmen have got you over 3 mill in debt.
I also find it interesting that you believe because people post on rlfans they may not be succesful businessmen, i know some that are far more succesful that the ones you mention above.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Firstly i dont see myself as a troll, i come on here for decent debates but there only seems to be a limited number of rovers fans up for that in the current predicament. (the rest get defensive and call us boring trolls)
Secondly, did my posting on the rovers forum drop off in 2008 and 2009? (i would be you a significant amount of cash that i still came on here and posted for those reasonable debates, even when we were cack)
Next?'"
Just because you don't consider yourself to be a troll doesn't remove you from my troll list! Your repetitive digs about Rovers recruitment is classic troll activity, i.e. poorly informed opinion attempting pathetic points scoring. You can redeem yourself by admitting that we did not need to do much recruiting due to our 2009 performances.
I have no way of verifying your claims to be a consistent poster (well, not within the time I have available this year!).
Next?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"As ive said on another thread, those succesful businessmen have got you over 3 mill in debt.
I also find it interesting that you believe because people post on rlfans they may not be succesful businessmen, i know some that are far more succesful that the ones you mention above.'"
Not at all, Mrs Barista may be the senior financial advisor to the IMF for all I know, but she knows nothing about the inner workings of Hull KR, she picks out sound bites from here and there and forms a long winded opinion. As I said, I am happy to leave the running of our club to those that are in charge, they KNOW the true picture and are prepared to underwrite the clubs finances, which must mean they have confidence in their abilities to make a success of it.
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| I dont know if this has already been asked.
Been a Hull fan if there was all this negative press about my club been skint i wouldnt be happy if we were going for Clinton when there is no threat of relagation. What are your thoughts?
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| Quote ="the vicar of preston road"I dont know if this has already been asked.
Been a Hull fan if there was all this negative press about my club been skint i wouldnt be happy if we were going for Clinton when there is no threat of relagation. What are your thoughts?'"
My thoughts are that you have basically answered your own question. Being a Hull fan, you clearly have lower expectations on your team than we have of ours. Relegation has no part to play in future strategies at HKR, continuous improvement is the future.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"My thoughts are that you have basically answered your own question. Being a Hull fan, you clearly have lower expectations on your team than we have of ours. Relegation has no part to play in future strategies at HKR, continuous improvement is the future.'"
Relagation has no part to play for any team this year, I would rather my team consolidate than take the chance of going out of existence. Wouldnt you want the same for rovers?
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| Quote ="rover49"Not at all, Mrs Barista may be the senior financial advisor to the IMF for all I know, but she knows nothing about the inner workings of Hull KR, she picks out sound bites from here and there and forms a long winded opinion. As I said, I am happy to leave the running of our club to those that are in charge, they KNOW the true picture and are prepared to underwrite the clubs finances, which must mean they have confidence in their abilities to make a success of it.'"
A tad harsh. The published accounts for the last few years, independent credit reports and Hudgell's statement that things can't go on as they are together form more than pure conjecture.
Anyway, Clinton. When is my all-time favourite Rovers player arriving?
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Just because you don't consider yourself to be a troll doesn't remove you from my troll list! Your repetitive digs about Rovers recruitment is classic troll activity, i.e. poorly informed opinion attempting pathetic points scoring. You can redeem yourself by admitting that we did not need to do much recruiting due to our 2009 performances.
I have no way of verifying your claims to be a consistent poster (well, not within the time I have available this year!).
Next?'"
I'm pleased i'm finally on someones troll list.
My repetetive digs about rovers lack of recruitment is because it's too easy not to dig. Its not for points scoring, it's for debate. I'm interested to know if rovers fans think its good enough. It's not poorly informed either, youve signed a couple of good young kids and thats it. Have i missed something?
I also think that Rovers performances in 2009 weren't entirely down to your own good form. I wait to be proven wrong in 2010 but i dont think some of your players are as good as you think they are. That again isnt trolling, it's an opinion that i'd value a debate on but most of your fans dont seem to want to debate anything at the moment, too depressed or something?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A tad harsh. The published accounts for the last few years, independent credit reports and Hudgell's statement that things can't go on as they are together form more than pure conjecture.
Anyway, Clinton. When is my all-time favourite Rovers player arriving?'"
In time for the start of the season apparently. (i hear he wont be wearing a Rovers shirt though)
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"In time for the start of the season apparently. (i hear he wont be wearing a Rovers shirt though)'"
And you consider yourself "not a troll"?
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| Quote ="the vicar of preston road"Relagation has no part to play for any team this year, I would rather my team consolidate than take the chance of going out of existence. Wouldnt you want the same for rovers?'"
Rovers are consolidating, they just happen to be consolidating a bit higher up the league table than is comfortable for your average Hull fan to be happy with.
All this "trying to run before you can walk" stuff from Hull fans is getting a bit predictable, and really shows the true reason for the massive interest in Rovers current financial position. I would only be hugely concerned if monies were owed to external creditors. As far as I am aware, the overwhelming majority of debt sits with director loans. This doesn't concern me, as the directors are Rovers to the core.
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| How is this thread still running
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"How is this thread still running'"
Just luck I guess. Or perhaps its down to the conditioning work of Billy Mallinson?
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Just luck I guess. Or perhaps its down to the conditioning work of Billy Mallinson?'"
May also still be running because Clinton hasnt yet signed or not signed. Latest update i can find is from the end of Nov that says he's expected to announce he will sign for Rovers within the next week.
Willie Mason can be put to bed though, he turned Celtic down yesterday to sign for Melbourne.
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May also still be running because Clinton hasnt yet signed or not signed. Latest update i can find is from the end of Nov that says he's expected to announce he will sign for Rovers within the next week.
Willie Mason can be put to bed though, he turned Celtic down yesterday to sign for Melbourne.'"
What a fool!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A tad harsh. The published accounts for the last few years, independent credit reports and Hudgell's statement that things can't go on as they are together form more than pure conjecture.
Anyway, Clinton. When is my all-time favourite Rovers player arriving?'"
I think we all know that, even me who struggles to balance my own finances month to month, but most of us don't need some of your 'technical' accountancy posts, for one we don't understand them and for two your intention is to wind everyone up at every opportunity. I read and respond to your shorter posts, but as for the rest I'm afraid I have no interest in. I firmly believe that the board have everything under control and apart from financial gliches due to the recession I think the financial position was to be expected and is only part of a longer term strategy.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I'm interested to know if rovers fans think its good enough. It's not poorly informed either, youve signed a couple of good young kids and thats it. Have i missed something? '"
Yes, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to continue our progress.
Quote ="Big Dave T"I also think that Rovers performances in 2009 weren't entirely down to your own good form.'"
Yes they where, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to continue our progress.
Quote ="Big Dave T" I wait to be proven wrong in 2010 but i dont think some of your players are as good as you think they are.'"
Yes they are, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to bring our squad on and again continue our progress.
........Hull FC...........Hull KR
2007 - 4th................11th
2008 - 11th...............7th
2009 - 12th...............4th
I also think that Hulls performances in recent seasons weren't entirely down to your own bad form, just that certain teams where better.............or have i missed something?
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Yes, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to continue our progress.
Yes they where, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to continue our progress.
Yes they are, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to bring our squad on and again continue our progress.
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2007 - 4th................11th
2008 - 11th...............7th
2009 - 12th...............4th
I also think that Hulls performances in recent seasons weren't entirely down to your own bad form, just that certain teams where better.............or have i missed something?'"
Talk about simplifying things drastically.
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May also still be running because Clinton hasnt yet signed or not signed. Latest update i can find is from the end of Nov that says he's expected to announce he will sign for Rovers within the next week.
Willie Mason can be put to bed though, he turned Celtic down yesterday to sign for Melbourne.'"
Wrong
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5814634289
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May also still be running because Clinton hasnt yet signed or not signed. Latest update i can find is from the end of Nov that says he's expected to announce he will sign for Rovers within the next week.
Willie Mason can be put to bed though, he turned Celtic down yesterday to sign for Melbourne.'"
Wrong
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5814634289
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Yes, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to continue our progress.
Yes they where, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to continue our progress.
Yes they are, we finished 4th and we have a good coach that we have faith in to bring our squad on and again continue our progress.
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2008 - 11th...............7th
2009 - 12th...............4th
I also think that Hulls performances in recent seasons weren't entirely down to your own bad form, just that certain teams where better.............or have i missed something?'"
Yep, plenty of stuff:
A plague of injuries, our most influential/creative player ditching us mid-season in 2007, poor recruitment and retention in both playing and backroom staff and having half the team pi£$ed up most nights.
Don't worry though, we'll be back to being top four before long and continue reaching finals regularly. You on the other hand might scrape into the playoffs this year, but next year when Cooke, Galea etc are gone and replaced by kids, you;ll be fihting it out for the wooden spoon.
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Interesting.... maybe he could be a Celtic player afterall.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Rovers are consolidating, they just happen to be consolidating a bit higher up the league table than is comfortable for your average Hull fan to be happy with.
All this "trying to run before you can walk" stuff from Hull fans is getting a bit predictable, and really shows the true reason for the massive interest in Rovers current financial position. I would only be hugely concerned if monies were owed to external creditors. As far as I am aware, the overwhelming majority of debt sits with director loans. This doesn't concern me, as the directors are Rovers to the core.'"
My my i was only asking a question, Im quite at ease with last years table. If you honestly believe all hull fans are having a sly dig at rovers then maybe
you need a little time out.
Chill out your paranoia will only get worse if you dont.
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