How long since he played?

He would fit in nicely at Hull.

You just keep supporting the low life of the world and make excuses for them, whilst i and the vast majority of law abiding citizens continue to hold them in contempt.



Nuff said nick

supporting and understanding are two totally different things, I have no convictions, never been arrested, have no points on my driving licence and try to be a very good citizen. I just have an understanding of how different cultures work.

The fact a suicide bomber is willing to give his/her life for something they believe so strongly about is often very foreign to the British public but I understand their reasons doesnt mean I support their actions.

Seriously?

I rest my case.

When you believe and love something strongly enough you will die for the cause, they have their reasons for what they do and as brutal and immoral as it may be their inner strength is not to be questioned.

How many would die for their kids? I dont think there are too many parents that wouldnt because you love them and want to protect them.

Back to the Ben case, he wanted to protect a friend whom he obviously cares about and was willing to take the consequences.

All of this doesnt mean I defend Bens actual actions or support him or any other convicts I just have an understanding something I feel there is little of from certain posters on these forums.

Don't get me wrong I agree with you I just find it hard to understand the workings of a phsychopaths mind. (suicide bombers not BC

)

Psychopaths are mentally ill people, suicide bombers are completely healthy religeous believers.

My point is that the British public find it difficult to comprehend that someone could die for something they believe in, we live in a world where material things far outweigh beliefs where as these "psychopaths" do not want or need a 50" Plasma or a PS3 they are quite happy to sit with their holy book and pray to who/what they believe in.

However, this "belief" or "religion" does not excuse their actions just like Bens previous and current jobs do not excuse his actions and is why he and they deserve to be punished.

Must point out that a suicide bomber can only be punished if caught before they've blown him/herself up!!!

Just before someone picks up on that one!

Sorry for the thread drift but in my book anybody willing to kill themselves in order to also kill innocent people is mentally ill.

Your opinion is shared by many and totally understandable. I would however just ask you to read this research done by Nottingham Uni - research.nottingham.ac.uk/newsre ... spx?id=344 It too is just an opinion based on research however there have been instances where terrorist cells have used the mentally ill to carry out attacks. The main thing from this is that EVERYONE has a different way of thinking whether it be from this extreme right down to should you slap a naughty child. Ben has a different thought pattern to that of say Gordon, Gordon has a different thought pattern to mine...etc we dont have to agree with each other but a healthy understanding of why someone thinks differently sometimes makes all the difference when judging an action.

Your opinion is shared by many and totally understandable. I would however just ask you to read this research done by Nottingham Uni - research.nottingham.ac.uk/newsre ... spx?id=344 It too is just an opinion based on research however there have been instances where terrorist cells have used the mentally ill to carry out attacks. The main thing from this is that EVERYONE has a different way of thinking whether it be from this extreme right down to should you slap a naughty child. Ben has a different thought pattern to that of say Gordon, Gordon has a different thought pattern to mine...etc we dont have to agree with each other but a healthy understanding of why someone thinks differently sometimes makes all the difference when judging an action.

That sums up my feeelings for Rovers but i wouldnt die for them Nick.
And im a Longhill Lad too and still wonder where this unwritten rule comes from

Surely you have never played rugby then if you have not heard of the law of one in all in?

Oh i played Schoolboy rugby mate and thats where thats ends.
When you get past 16 you tend to grow up a bit.

So you are familiar with the rule then?

You "love" Rovers differently to that of say your children, parents and other close family and friends. A gun is pointed at your child you'd probably stand in front of that weapon to save your child, however you wouldnt die for Rovers, it would upset you but you wouldn't sacrafice yourself for it.

What a lot of religeous believers have is a love that outweighs their love for their family and friends and some believe that if they die for their cause their afterlife will be so great it outweighs the cost they have paid in this life.

As for the unwritten rule of "one in all in" and "put them down and make sure they stay down or they'll get up and do it to you" maybe you havent heard of it but its out there and not one just shared by Longhill folk. I havent played for any team that hasn't used the term "one in all in" and it doesnt just count on the pitch either.

Nick which team do you coach, I like your views and would love my kids been coached by a coach who lives in the real world

You do realise you left yourself wide open there!!!

Personally I've nothing against suicide bombers. I just think they should do it in the privacy of their own homes.

PMSL at page 13

He's far from innocent mate, if he hadn't have beat his girlfriend up in the pub then none of this would have happened as no one would have said a word to the knob never mind beat him up. He regularly hits his girlfriend and doesn't work. Hes seen the easy money with the HDM and I believe the main editor of this paper is a big FC fan (correct me if Im wrong). Bet Thompson didnt start his story saying well i as wasted in the pub and my girl said somethinbg out of turn to me so I whacked her one........

KR fans I urge you to get behind Ben and support him through this set back he' a good lad with a big heart and he loves Hull KR and rugby league in general. Some of the messages hes had from people over this incident are sickening, people have told him they wish hed have died in Iraq, some of these are from rovers fans too. Now people know the full story I dont expect them to condone what he did but I think it gives people a bit more insght in to the full happenings of what went on that night and hopefully people can see what a cretin Thompson is and hat the papers didn't report the full version of events.

The HDM, in a nutshell there.

People would be wise to listen to you mate. You seem to know what you're on about, unlike some of the other jury members of the public opinion court.

Thanks for that.