Someone else for O `Meley and the Tongan mafia to sit on his !

You have bought one old and one injury prone Aussie and expect your pack to compete with the higher placed Super League teams....think you'll find there sat on there own booties more often than not.

Another one who thinks if you give some players a silly moniker it'll make them better players than they were last year..

If i was a betting man, with Rovers new debts announced today properly and with the news that you are looking to offload high earners like Cooke i'd be surprised if Clinton ever gets off a plane in the UK.

You making mischief again??

Nope, just trying to have a reasonable debate about Rovers current problems that apparently arent problems.

Who do you think he would sign for, one of the other clubs massively indebt in SL?

Rovers haven't said they're trying to offload their high earners, they've said they're trying to offload the players they are overpaying due to at the time of signing rovers being in a position of neccessity.

Anyway I doubt Clinton will have read the HDM today..

Reasoned debate between Rovers fans and Hull fans????

Impossible

Dunno, i know of 2 clubs that have come in for him and neither have offered as much as Rovers apparently. Depends if Rovers can actually afford it without the debt further spiralling out of control.

Cooke is one of the highest earners and is being touted around to be offloaded, i'd also guess Galea wont have his deal renewed at the end of the season for similar reasons.

One big question, do you think Rovers massively overspending for 1 succesful SL season and then having the problems associated with fighting off that debt is worth it? (i'm not trolling by the way, just trying to have a genuine debate about the problems, we've been through them too in the past dont forget)

It does happen sometimes, just not when certain fans get twitchy and bury their heads in the sand about things that are clear to see for most neutrals.

Maybe Rovers should introduce player valuations to their balance sheet?? That would make things look slightly better

Makes no difference - would be like me having a facelift. Slightly better appearance but still mischief-making B&W old bag underneath.

Out of interest are Rovers paying Clintons salary at the mo if as I understand the contract is signed and sealed?

Hope not for their sake.

Surprised that Dave T and the other Hull fans missed the bit in the HDM which stated Hudgell and other board members had been prepared to make large investments in Craven Park and underwrite the clubs debts.

Bit like Hull directors were underwriting there own debts a few years ago.

But replacing with yet another overpaid player, as Clinton will be at £130,000+ for a non state of origin , non international , with recent history of poor form bench player..Some funny decisions been taken at Craven Park these days, makes you wonder who is actually steeering the ship, the coach or the board????

I believe Cooke and Galea are different scenarios to Clinton, Cooke was paid silly money to keep us in SL (which was definitely worth it as relegation would have been a catastrophe) but as we stand today isn't worth the current wage we are paying him.Galea is no spring chicken and is in a position that we can cover very capably and will certainly look to bring in a younger, cheaper replacement (Cook or Taylor).

We will still need to pay players worth their wage a good amount and with sponsorship, backers and crowds we will improve financially. I'd fit Briscoe, Newton, Dobson in to this bracket.
Clinton will come into the club on a wage worthy of his standing and in a position we need to fill to maintain our current squad strength.

I don't believe we have overspent for one good season, I think we have invested in a foundation of a very good and solid superleague side, that with building around the fringes, better young players coming through (attracted by on field performances) and selective and correctly valued players coming in (when available) will develop a sustainable business model in years to come.

I expect a few big earners to be moved on at the end of the year, Cooke, Galea, Walker, Webster, Fisher and possibly Vella will all look to be moved on. I would hope shoots of young players will fill some of these roles, Ratu and Welham in the centres, Hodgeson and Spaven at Hooker, Taylor and Cook in 2nd row and Watts up Front and look to buy in a quality 6 and maybe another position.

It was always going to take financial hardship to get up from NL to SL and I expect none of this is coming as a great shock to the board, the plan will always heve been get to a postion of soliditiy and then consolidate and make it pay for itself. Hopefully that will start to happen.

Key word being HAD, didn't Hudgell in his recent all access interview say that position would be reviewed at the end of next season? As some used to be quick to point out, what happens when said directors want their cash back?

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Who is the 34 y/o forward FC signed?

for wasn't good enough read wasn't fit enough.

There was always going to be heavy investment and loss in putting Rovers back in the upper tier of the game.
Management of the process is the key.
I have every faith in Neil and the board to do this.
If however there a problems then so beit.
As City fans said it is better to have gained promotion than not at all and their future road is rocky too.

The investment has obviously paid off as we are the premier rugby league team in the city - something which many black and whites have difficulty with - infact they spend more time on here trying to pull Rovers down then making positives on their own club.

Us sensible Rovers fans knew there would be a heavy price for promotion and that manifests in later years.
HKR academy has made parallel progress with the first team and should reap rewards in attracting the better local lads.

Merry Christmas to all rugby fans out there and for the FC fans looking for cheap shots - think of the wider picture!!!

Keep believing the hype.
Hull FC have had 2 bad years on the pitch . Off it they are growing . Hull KR are a big "name" but they are not a big "Club".
They do not have the fan base , stadium or infastructure to totally surpass Hull FC. If Hull are successful next season there will be 15K + at the KC not to mention a full house for the derby . Figures that Hull KR can only dream of.
Hudgell is the classic case of the heart ruling head supporter Chairman. This has now caught him up .

That's my opinion - nothing to do with hype!
And you are entitled to your opinion.
Merry Christmas

who else would you have signed instead of Long? sadly for RL there are not many quality no7's available anymore.

Fitzgibbon is only 33, and is here on a 1 year deal. A similarly aged Stephen Kearney was one of the best players ever to pull on the black and white in his 1 season at the club. We needed a 'leader' and we have signed one.

and I think you'll find Moa was always signed as a 'project' and that he played almost every game towards the end of the year when his fitness improved. His form towards the end of the season makes me excited about his potential.

Lauaki does seem to be hot headed, but we haven't seen enough of him to pass judgment yet