You have no idea who I am, let alone who I might or might not know. And I never mentioned HCC anyway. Or even what I was told for that matter. You seem a little touchy - could it be because of this direct quote from Hudge?:



Interesting times.

Can somebody explain, some people are saying it's ok to move to the KC for a year and save some money to pay for the renovations, but surely you'll still have a tenancy agreement and be responsible for the bills at CP even though your not playing there, hence two sets of bills.
Could this mean to move into the KC and make it viable you'd be moving lock stock and barrel and giving up CP.
Seems to me if you move in whatever the spin they put on it about renovation etc, once your in you ain't moving back out.

I understand Hudgell's frustrations at the pace of progression.

However, he could have chosen to run the club at breakeven with a smaller squad for 2012 and 2013 whilst the funding intricacies of the development were being sorted and the stand constructed. The new 3 year franchises have been awarded and are supposed to allow clubs breathing space to plan properly for infrastructure improvements without the threat of relegation. It's a bit harsh to complain to the council about losing money in a year in which the stand would not have been ready anyway. Spend a bit less.

Moving to West Hull (be it the KC, Costello, or a new ground) would be the death of HullKR. Same as moving to Craven Park or East Hull would be the death of HullFC.

Both sides would lose their identity if they ever moved long-term and support would dwindle.

I can understand Hudgell's frustration at the lack of progress, but can't understand why you don't work on a more short-term, cheaper solution. Why can't temporary stands with roofs (as seen at The Stoop) be installed at each end for a few years?

that would boost capacity, and after a few years you would hope the economy will be in better shape and more funding available for a proper stand.

Rovers fans have always been proud to let us know that they own CP . Now NH wants to shut up shop and move to the KC.

I don't think anybody is talking about it in those terms now. CP will either be developed or we have to look at other long-term solutions. A stop-gap might be handy under other circumstances, but it doesn't solve the problem we would have.



Benefit of hindsight, tbf. Running at £300k under cap would likely impact on performance and in turn revenue. You can plan as much as you like, but stadia only get built in RL if there is an injection of cash. There's a big difference between when and if. I doubt you'll be suggesting austerity as an alternative to Pearson's attempts to renegotiate Hull's tenancy agreement, btw.





Don't think the cost-benefit would make it worthwhile. At this stage it'd be politically under-ambitious - although that might change. Who is going to cover the up-front costs - the uncovered golf-stand was about half a million wasn't it?
We've seen what's happened with Wakefield over the years - I'm not sure it is necessarily the best plan B. None of 'em are great tbh. Hopefully plan A will finally go ahead in the summer. The pressure is on.

Exactly NH is the typical fan owning a Club. He has let his heart rule his head.
His overstreching of Hull KR financially will come home to roost.
How many more hand outs does he want ? £1million from Allam . A substantial sum from the Council which was paid in 3 annual installments and still he wants more !!

Just one. As long as it is appropriately massive.



Refresh my memory, what are these substantial payments from the council you speak of?

=#FF0000Delays were caused firstly by an error in costing the project by the local authority, leaving a shortfall of close to £1 million and forcing the tendering process to re-start.

Now, the Mail has learned that more than £2 million in European regional development funding is still to be secured.

This was due to the deadline to apply being missed as a result of the initial costing setback.

Not surprised Hudge is =#FF0000Edit-AS off at this.

Not at all. Capacity and revenue was already going to be constrained this year and it would have been reasonable/prudent in setting the budgets to anticipate a programme delay in the context of a 3 year franchise deal. Hudgell and Rovers have registered plenty of discretionary spend over the last few years, from a large squad with 11 overseas players to a week-long overseas training camp to automated turnstiles to Willie Mason cardboard cutouts. To then say to the council, (without whom there would be no Plan A or Plan B because of Rovers inability to get any other source of funding for an adequate ground) that Rovers are losing money and it's all the council's fault is warped logic even I would have trouble dreaming up.






Pearson can do what he likes, we have no choice. He's transparent about having £60k left on the cap and has invested in a new training facility. Good lad.

You appear to be praying for the demise of fellow rugby league club, therefore your opinions are those of a bellend and can be happily ignored.

Full disclosure - I added the prayer emoticon when I quoted him (not in his original post), to rip the pee. Justifiably IMO.

I'm failing to see any distinction whatsoever.



What other source of funding is there for RL stadia? Nobody (edit - hardly anybody

) funds their own, unless they have land to sell.

Logic and consistency is for science.


This is politics and the real world - what you need is a compelling narrative.

No problem when i win the lotto tonight i will pay for it all my name is crab, thats what he would say were is he

Where you not given £1.5million by the council? NH wanted it one go .The council said no and payed it over 3 years.

Okay, I have absolutely no recollection of this. Is my mind going? Do you have a link?

Rovers posters the time may have come for me to take a seat in the corner, with a blanket over my knees - please help me avoid embarrassing myself (again). Did this happen?

I know you know absolutely nothing about this but then again you are a man who isn't from here, doesn't live here and doesn't even bother going to his own teams games so I guess you would know the internal workings of the team you don't even support.

Simple answer NO!

Knowing stuff - setting the bar a bit high there for these boards!

Let's try to be friendly - and that isn't setting the bar too high, because I said 'try'

Ta.

I know you can't handle the truth but you need your troll detector recalibrating

Lay off with the personal insults.

You know nothing of the sort. You may [ihope[/i that's the case or even believe it, but you don't [iknow[/i it.

Just for clarity, I haven't claimed to [iknow[/i anything in any case. I said that I'd been [itold[/i something. And what I was told ties in nicely with what's in the public domain, so I'm inclined to believe it has at least some substance.

As far as distance is concerned - you are aware that there are methods of communication that don't rely on physical proximity, right? I mean, we're both using one now and everything.

A few years ago I put forward the suggestion that a ground should be built for both RL teams to share similar to this arrangement in Germany whereby the colour of the stadium changes according to the home team. Here is the link..

[urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allianz_Arena[/url

The council should fund it out of the money from thesecond share sell off the KC Comms if they can account for it.

Alternatively they still are a major shareholder in KC so should sell that off and also sell to Mr Allam the KC stadium.

Think of the benefits to both teams , the only real debate is where to put it.

East Park is my suggestion or on the river front somewhere.

Thankfully your suggestion was obviously filed in the correct waste bin.

We're quite happy where we are thanks, we may have the odd spat with our co-tenants but that's just one of those things. We don't need someone else sharing the bed now, you had ample opportunity in the past and decided to forego it.

You promote yourself as a "community club", so stick with your community and all that goes with it.