Quote ="Mild Rover"I think NH is saying that if there were another delay on top this, then at some point you have to say enough is enough and cut your losses. His preferred plan B would be the KC. If that isn't feasible he'd prefer to pass the baton on and let somebody else come up with a plan C. I've not checked the Mail yet, in fairness, but that is my general impression.'" Latest from the HDM: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html This ties in with something I was told shortly after the Sun story was published. Seems that Plan B is already under discussion.

Quote ="Mild Rover"I think NH is saying that if there were another delay on top this, then at some point you have to say enough is enough and cut your losses. His preferred plan B would be the KC. If that isn't feasible he'd prefer to pass the baton on and let somebody else come up with a plan C. I've not checked the Mail yet, in fairness, but that is my general impression.'" Latest from the HDM: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html This ties in with something I was told shortly after the Sun story was published. Seems that Plan B is already under discussion.

Don't be such a drama queen. We could travel over together in a little car festooned with dangly player shirt things - Welham 3, Yeaman 4, and a nylon zip-up bag stuffed with a flask of bovril and chocolate churros. How would that not be an improvement on your current matchday experience?

As lovely as that would be, minus the filthy churros obviously, the emotional investment brought about by nearly twenty years of standing on terraces staring into the distance thinking "why do I do this" would feel as if it had been =#FF0000Edit-AS up a wall.

Yes he has made several intersting point this is a good thread.
One little gag often takes us in another direction does it not?

Quote ="Kosh"Latest from the HDM: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html This ties in with something I was told shortly after the Sun story was published. Seems that Plan B is already under discussion.'" From your vast array of contacts in Hull City Council, you know nothing

Quote ="Kosh"Latest from the HDM: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html This ties in with something I was told shortly after the Sun story was published. Seems that Plan B is already under discussion.'" From your vast array of contacts in Hull City Council, you know nothing

You have no idea who I am, let alone who I might or might not know. And I never mentioned HCC anyway. Or even what I was told for that matter. You seem a little touchy - could it be because of this direct quote from Hudge?:



Interesting times.

Can somebody explain, some people are saying it's ok to move to the KC for a year and save some money to pay for the renovations, but surely you'll still have a tenancy agreement and be responsible for the bills at CP even though your not playing there, hence two sets of bills.
Could this mean to move into the KC and make it viable you'd be moving lock stock and barrel and giving up CP.
Seems to me if you move in whatever the spin they put on it about renovation etc, once your in you ain't moving back out.

I understand Hudgell's frustrations at the pace of progression.

However, he could have chosen to run the club at breakeven with a smaller squad for 2012 and 2013 whilst the funding intricacies of the development were being sorted and the stand constructed. The new 3 year franchises have been awarded and are supposed to allow clubs breathing space to plan properly for infrastructure improvements without the threat of relegation. It's a bit harsh to complain to the council about losing money in a year in which the stand would not have been ready anyway. Spend a bit less.

Moving to West Hull (be it the KC, Costello, or a new ground) would be the death of HullKR. Same as moving to Craven Park or East Hull would be the death of HullFC.

Both sides would lose their identity if they ever moved long-term and support would dwindle.

I can understand Hudgell's frustration at the lack of progress, but can't understand why you don't work on a more short-term, cheaper solution. Why can't temporary stands with roofs (as seen at The Stoop) be installed at each end for a few years?

that would boost capacity, and after a few years you would hope the economy will be in better shape and more funding available for a proper stand.

Rovers fans have always been proud to let us know that they own CP . Now NH wants to shut up shop and move to the KC.

I don't think anybody is talking about it in those terms now. CP will either be developed or we have to look at other long-term solutions. A stop-gap might be handy under other circumstances, but it doesn't solve the problem we would have.



Benefit of hindsight, tbf. Running at £300k under cap would likely impact on performance and in turn revenue. You can plan as much as you like, but stadia only get built in RL if there is an injection of cash. There's a big difference between when and if. I doubt you'll be suggesting austerity as an alternative to Pearson's attempts to renegotiate Hull's tenancy agreement, btw.





Don't think the cost-benefit would make it worthwhile. At this stage it'd be politically under-ambitious - although that might change. Who is going to cover the up-front costs - the uncovered golf-stand was about half a million wasn't it?
We've seen what's happened with Wakefield over the years - I'm not sure it is necessarily the best plan B. None of 'em are great tbh. Hopefully plan A will finally go ahead in the summer. The pressure is on.

Exactly NH is the typical fan owning a Club. He has let his heart rule his head.
His overstreching of Hull KR financially will come home to roost.
How many more hand outs does he want ? £1million from Allam . A substantial sum from the Council which was paid in 3 annual installments and still he wants more !!

Just one. As long as it is appropriately massive.



Refresh my memory, what are these substantial payments from the council you speak of?

=#FF0000Delays were caused firstly by an error in costing the project by the local authority, leaving a shortfall of close to £1 million and forcing the tendering process to re-start.

Now, the Mail has learned that more than £2 million in European regional development funding is still to be secured.

This was due to the deadline to apply being missed as a result of the initial costing setback.

Not surprised Hudge is =#FF0000Edit-AS off at this.

Not at all. Capacity and revenue was already going to be constrained this year and it would have been reasonable/prudent in setting the budgets to anticipate a programme delay in the context of a 3 year franchise deal. Hudgell and Rovers have registered plenty of discretionary spend over the last few years, from a large squad with 11 overseas players to a week-long overseas training camp to automated turnstiles to Willie Mason cardboard cutouts. To then say to the council, (without whom there would be no Plan A or Plan B because of Rovers inability to get any other source of funding for an adequate ground) that Rovers are losing money and it's all the council's fault is warped logic even I would have trouble dreaming up.






Pearson can do what he likes, we have no choice. He's transparent about having £60k left on the cap and has invested in a new training facility. Good lad.

You appear to be praying for the demise of fellow rugby league club, therefore your opinions are those of a bellend and can be happily ignored.

Full disclosure - I added the prayer emoticon when I quoted him (not in his original post), to rip the pee. Justifiably IMO.

I'm failing to see any distinction whatsoever.



What other source of funding is there for RL stadia? Nobody (edit - hardly anybody

) funds their own, unless they have land to sell.

Logic and consistency is for science.


This is politics and the real world - what you need is a compelling narrative.

No problem when i win the lotto tonight i will pay for it all my name is crab, thats what he would say were is he

Where you not given £1.5million by the council? NH wanted it one go .The council said no and payed it over 3 years.

Okay, I have absolutely no recollection of this. Is my mind going? Do you have a link?

Rovers posters the time may have come for me to take a seat in the corner, with a blanket over my knees - please help me avoid embarrassing myself (again). Did this happen?

I know you know absolutely nothing about this but then again you are a man who isn't from here, doesn't live here and doesn't even bother going to his own teams games so I guess you would know the internal workings of the team you don't even support.

Simple answer NO!

Knowing stuff - setting the bar a bit high there for these boards!

Let's try to be friendly - and that isn't setting the bar too high, because I said 'try'

Ta.