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| Quote ="Kat von D"One simple comment to remind people that General Zod has been uber confident and boastful about Mason's arrival date before and been wrong has caused undue excitement and paranoia on here.'"
Nope. Simply said "looking good" with a IIRC so please stop lying as usual.
Quote ="Kat von D"Stop twitching. Like Kats with fleas.
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More like Robins with parasites.
General Zod > Mrs Borista
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| Quote ="General Zod."Nope. Simply said "looking good" with a
IIRC so please stop lying as usual.
More like Robins with parasites.
General Zod > Mrs Borista
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This Kat von D woman is in fact some goth type from the USA. She's probably in the Tea Party. Get this, she has an affinity for a Rugby Club called Football Club.
Weird.
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| Anyhooo - back on topic please.
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| Quote ="General Zod."1) If Willie Mason was to get a Tongan passport, then this would not enable Rovers to sign another overseas player as Mason would still be classed as "overseas trained" - only overseas players signed before Feb 2008 who have European passports (i.e. Fisher, Vella, Galea, Newton & Lovegrove) are exempt from the quota so references otherwise are simply down to lazy and inaccurate journalism.
Quote 2) Just supposing Mason already has his visa, it would make more sense the Mason continues his pre-season preparation in a warmer climate where it will be more beneficial for him than training in these arctic conditions'" .
3) Then there's a logistics point of view of making travel arrangements when we have the goings on at Heathrow etc.
People need to chill and have more trust in our board who deliver time and time again.
I've every confidence Mason will be lining up against FC in Cardiff.'"
surely all coaches want ALL of there players with them for pre season, if you can get him here now then you would do, you wouldnt have him train on his own IMO
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Anyhooo - back on topic please.'"
Stop trying to derail the thread!
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| 7th of January 2011, is the day!!
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| Quote ="phleastyler"7th of January 2011, is the day!!'"
Why the 7th of jan were do u get that date from
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Why the 7th of jan were do u get that date from'"
We've used just about every other date so why not the 7th Jan, as good as any other...
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Why the 7th of jan were do u get that date from'"
From a source, not saying its a great absolutely concrete never wrong about anything source but a source non the less.
oh yeah
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| Any thoughts on the recent tax ruling article affecting Mason's impending arrival, especially if KR at the top end of the salary cap?
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| Quote ="JohnSmith2602"Any thoughts on the recent tax ruling article affecting Mason's impending arrival, especially if KR at the top end of the salary cap?'"
That's what I thought apparently is could affect finch and Lima to
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| Quote ="JohnSmith2602"Any thoughts on the recent tax ruling article affecting Mason's impending arrival, especially if KR at the top end of the salary cap?'"
I can't see there'd be any chance a contract would be written with a tax-free figure/clause in it - it just wouldn't be workable with a salary cap sport.
All these new rules mean is that Aussies will get taxed more on the taxable figures on their respective contracts - that's tough titty for them at the end of the day.
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| the tax rule could affect quite a few players.i honestly cant see mason turning up.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"the tax rule could affect quite a few players.i honestly cant see mason turning up.'"
In what specific respect?
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| plenty time yet for him to come would you come in all that snow
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| Quote ="Roofs"For £150,000 a year, yes I certainly would.
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He may well want to for that money but they are stopping em getting thru this tax loop hole lots of agents in Aus are trying to sort things now for players that have arrived at other clubs for this coming season who says there won't be a twist in other players going back him from giants and wigans big 3, but then green over so who knows just wish if rovers know something they would let us all know sooner rather than later.
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| I haven't a clue what any of that means.
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| My guess is that he is obviating the need for a visa by acquiring a Tongan passport. The Kolpak ruling is no good for getting around the quota anymore, but it was possibly seen as an easier and more reliable route for getting into the country than an Aus visa. Whether that judgement has been borne out, I don't know.
The tax changes are going to have an impact - but if a player wanted to back out of a deal now, they'd be short of options. Berrigan has take the one of the last bits of quota-space over in the NRL.
We might see a few more heading back for 2012 - but people want to see more British kids given a shot, so it isn't the end of the world. Also if a tax loophole effectively means that an Australian is cheaper or better recompensed than a Brit of the same ability that is unfair and has been distorting the market.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"My guess is that he is obviating the need for a visa by acquiring a Tongan passport. The Kolpak ruling is no good for getting around the quota anymore, but it was possibly seen as an easier and more reliable route for getting into the country than an Aus visa. Whether that judgement has been borne out, I don't know.
The tax changes are going to have an impact - but if a player wanted to back out of a deal now, they'd be short of options. Berrigan has take the one of the last bits of quota-space over in the NRL.
We might see a few more heading back for 2012 - but people want to see more British kids given a shot, so it isn't the end of the world. Also if a tax loophole effectively means that an Australian is cheaper or better recompensed than a Brit of the same ability that is unfair and has been distorting the market.'"
Yep that's exactly what I meant well said
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"My guess is that he is obviating the need for a visa by acquiring a Tongan passport.'"
Except that Tongan passport holders still need a visa to work in the UK.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Except that Tongan passport holders still need a visa to work in the UK.'"
Yeah, I'd assumed (wrongly) that being an ACP country allowed free movement of labour as well preventing discriminatory rules once a worker is here. When people call for a more aggressive approach to the quota from the RFL, I don't think they realise just how close the rules sail to the wind as it is.
Perhaps then the two-step process of passport and visa from Tonga was considered a more appealing option for some reason (more likely to succeed? It doesn't seem to be quicker).
Other possibilities are that he simply wanted to spend the holiday period on holiday - which'd worry me slightly. Or Rovers and he maybe disagreed on whether a signing-on fee or wages should be paid before or after he got clearance, causing a delay. A simple delay on an Oz visa or the investigation into the alleged incompetent betting sting seem less likely, based on the little information available.
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| Quote ="Roofs"For £150,000 a year, yes I certainly would.
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but the additional offshore payments are now taxable at 40%. That's why we'll see a massive drop in top aussies playing in SL over the next few years imo unless another loophole is found.
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