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| Quote ="knocker norton"I think your comment sums up the thoughts of Hull fans. Yes you can strengthen your organisation by bringing people in but why then comment on the relative strength of Hull FC on the back of this? Surely it is of no concern?'"
Because that's what we're talking about, Hull and Rovers. Take the names "Hull KR" and "Hull FC" away and just look at the movement of personnel between two local clubs and their league positions and you could consider one being a feeder club to the other. It all seems to be one-way traffic (apart from Lee Crooks......)
I'm not concerned about Hull FC at all and I'm not bothered if taking more players and coaching staff from you gives you a "back handed compliment", as long as it's for the right reasons and they're of the same standard as the ones we've taken from you in recent years, I'm happy.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Because that's what we're talking about, Hull and Rovers. Take the names "Hull KR" and "Hull FC" away and just look at the movement of personnel between two local clubs and their league positions and you could consider one being a feeder club to the other. It all seems to be one-way traffic (apart from Lee Crooks......)
I'm not concerned about Hull FC at all and I'm not bothered if taking more players and coaching staff from you gives you a "back handed compliment", as long as it's for the right reasons and they're of the same standard as the ones we've taken from you in recent years, I'm happy.'"
Strange cos I thought we were talking about Craig Hall?
When you signed Peter Fox did you discuss how much you were weakening Wakey? No. I would suggest all the side comments about Hull give credence to Big Daves point.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Strange cos I thought we were talking about Craig Hall?
When you signed Peter Fox did you discuss how much you were weakening Wakey? No. I would suggest all the side comments about Hull give credence to Big Daves point.'"
Briscoe, Cooke, Wheeldon, Mallinson, Dunn and Chester =/= Peter Fox
The discussion changed once Big Dave T mentioned "Rovers' Hull player envy" (which is hilarious). I'm leaving this now, you're clearly deluded!
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Good point, and I think everyone can agree that Hull are weaker for not having those people at the club.'"
That wasnt RBA's point.
I accept you are wrong.
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| Quote ="very red robin".... rumour is doing the rounds again....
apparently hes signed 2yr contract from next season onwards.... next year to get his defence upto speed, then to take over from Webster when he leaves.'"
Contracted until 2010 .
Given your Clubs financial state I would very much doubt you could afford a fee.
Give us Kris Welham in exchange .
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Contracted until 2010 .
Given your Clubs financial state I would very much doubt you could afford a fee.
Give us Kris Welham in exchange .'"
for houghton and hall?
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Contracted until 2010 .
Given your Clubs financial state I would very much doubt you could afford a fee.
Give us Kris Welham in exchange .'"
Given the state of your own clubs finances i'm sure the hefty 5k cheque you picked up for the Leeds nines could go towards paying RW unpaid bonus's and leave him able to sign a new contract.
On topic it simply taken as read as any player JM wants our board will do their best to deliver. Onwards and upwards.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"You must realise that by constantly looking at our organisation for personnel to improve yours is a back handed compliment though?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"You must realise that by constantly looking at our organisation for personnel to improve yours is a back handed compliment though?
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It isnt a back handed compliment to Hull at all. What it is, is a huge compliment to the abilities and talents of the individuals involved, that we feel they are ready for the step up in level to Hull Kingston Rovers.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"
The discussion changed once Big Dave T mentioned "Rovers' Hull player envy" (which is hilarious). I'm leaving this now, you're clearly deluded!'"
But every year we hear the rumours on this board about Hall, Yeaman, Raynor, Washy, Whiting etc who apparently are all rovers fans. Just makes your arguement back a little weak. Your clubs fans clearly are interested in our players enough to start these rumours every year, as well as the driver of trying to get one over on our club which seems to have motivated Hudgell for a few season.
When did you last see the FC board smothered with rumours of us stealing one of your players? Sums the situation of our clubs up nicely for me!!
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| Quote ="R.B.A"It isnt a back handed compliment to Hull at all. What it is, is a huge compliment to the abilities and talents of the individuals involved, that we feel they are ready for the step up in level to Hull Kingston Rovers.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"It isnt a back handed compliment to Hull at all. What it is, is a huge compliment to the abilities and talents of the individuals involved, that we feel they are ready for the step up in level to Hull Kingston Rovers.
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So you are saying Hull FC is an organisation full of talented individuals then?
Full of compliments today!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"So you are saying Hull FC is an organisation full of talented individuals then?
Full of compliments today!'"
All back handed!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"So you are saying Hull FC is an organisation full of talented individuals then?
Full of compliments today!'"
As you know full well, i am saying that you have had, and still have, talented individuals within your organisation.
We then cherry pick them and leave you with the likes and Steve and Lee Crooks.
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We then cherry pick them and leave you with the likes and Steve and Lee Crooks.'"
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| Quote ="R.B.A"As you know full well, i am saying that you have had, and still have, talented individuals within your organisation.
We then cherry pick them and leave you with the likes and Steve and Lee Crooks.'"
What about Dunny and James Haynes?
Anyway thread drift!
Cant see Craig Hall leaving Hull at the moment and I think his stock is rising. Full of confidence Craig is a quality centre.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"What about Dunny and James Haynes?
Anyway thread drift!
Cant see Craig Hall leaving Hull at the moment and I think his stock is rising. Full of confidence Craig is a quality centre.'"
I think that you hit the nail on the head there, Craig is a confidence player, and a very good one at that, you only have to look what that excuse for a coach did to him a few months ago.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"What about Dunny and James Haynes?
Anyway thread drift!
Cant see Craig Hall leaving Hull at the moment and I think his stock is rising. Full of confidence Craig is a quality centre.'"
Martin Dunn appears to be doing a good job and much of his role as player performance manager will be unseen by us. Our academy set up is certainly going from strength to strength with him very much at the helm. In a play off position and a league double over his old club along the way.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Martin Dunn appears to be doing a good job and much of his role as player performance manager will be unseen by us. Our academy set up is certainly going from strength to strength with him very much at the helm. In a play off position and a league double over his old club along the way.'"
Its very much open to conjecture and opinions I think mate.
Is the idea of the academy to produce a team or to bring through 'star' individuals who have a super league future?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"But every year we hear the rumours on this board about Hall, Yeaman, Raynor, Washy, Whiting etc who apparently are all rovers fans. Just makes your arguement back a little weak. Your clubs fans clearly are interested in our players enough to start these rumours every year, as well as the driver of trying to get one over on our club which seems to have motivated Hudgell for a few season.
When did you last see the FC board smothered with rumours of us stealing one of your players? Sums the situation of our clubs up nicely for me!!
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do you not think you would of been better off with Dobson then?
For me its not about which club they are coming from, its if they will improve our squad for the better - and i dont think he would at this time, but you have to take into account were he is from (english player) as i dont think there will be enough SL standard english players in 3years time to go around all the clubs, so maybe taking the decent ones early is a good plan.
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| Quote ="very red robin"do you not think you would of been better off with Dobson then?
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In hindsight yes, but whats that got to do with anything here?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Its very much open to conjecture and opinions I think mate.
Is the idea of the academy to produce a team or to bring through 'star' individuals who have a super league future?'"
Its about bringing through potential stars of the future of which we are blessed to have many at the minute.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Its about bringing through potential stars of the future of which we are blessed to have many at the minute.'"
I hope you do it is great to see local talent representing local teams. We are certainly looking forward to a couple of players breaking through very soon.
I know one of your future stars speaks very highly of Chris Chester.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"In hindsight yes, but whats that got to do with anything here?'"
its got about as much as Raynor, yeamen and all the others been mentioned.... on a topic i created about CRAIG HALL!
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