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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Ive been told Coyle will play at weekend
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No point in that IMO, just stick Hulme on the bench.
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| Hulme is though !
if coyley is good to play then why not?
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| Hulme is not poop.He is a prospect, and scored 2 tries on his debut this season,so cant be that bad.Not worth risking half injured players,and they end out for a longer term.
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| hes not big enough or strong enough.
come back when hes a man not a boy !
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| Webster is not very big or richard myler and they are great players.Yes he does need to bulk up but that will happen as he gets into his twenties.Coyle has a injured hand and i prefer his fingers to be better and rest.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Hulme is poop though !
if coyley is good to play then why not?'"
How on earth do you work out that Hulme is poop? people doubted the fragile and Skinny Richard Myler, look at him now..........The fact that he's small agile and fast will mean problems galore for Haven IMO and his defence is pretty good from what i have seen.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"hes not big enough or strong enough.
come back when hes a man not a boy !'"
I think there have been enough of these type of players to discredit this argument.. Besides he seems to have several other key attributes such as a little bit of pace, a sharp turn on him, he put some good tackles in defensively and more importantly.. he looks like his dad!!!
Plus I'm not sure what you are arguing? You've got one of these against Coyle playing..
and then you're saying Coyle should play??
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| We should write off every single potential player who leaves his mother's womb and isn't instantaneously 10 feet tall and built like a challenger tank. Every player who has had anything about him ever has been Incredible Hulk like at five years of age. Grady for instance, remember when he broke through? Wasn't a skinny player, hasn't changed one iota since.
Let's get rid of our youth system, it's impossible for human evolution to work fast enough to make it worthwhile.
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| were all entitled to our own opinion and i dont rate him at all.
i cant see him making it into widnes first team much this year or next.
and im not arguing u lot are !!!
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"were all entitled to our own opinion and i dont rate him at all.
i cant see him making it into widnes first team much this year or next.
and im not arguing u lot are !!!'"
I agree physically he doesn't look ready, but in terms of talent, surely its a case of wait and see what happens. Hasn't really had enough games to make a proper judgement IMO. May turn out to be top class may end up being rubbish, but there's no rush and no need to write him off at this stage.
Having said that you'd think the next 18 months or so will be make or break for him - so I suppose from that point of view he has got quite a long way to go to in quite a short space of time
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Hulme is poop though !
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do you still stand by this? Were you there today?
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| Hulme did good and his back up for the try was great. The lad will become a good player for the future.
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"www.runcornandwidnesworld.co.uk/vikings/vikingsnews/5893091.BREAKING_NEWS__Vikings_have_10_missing_for_Easter_clash/
8 injured and the 2 dual contract players unavailable.
Not much positive in the short term about the injuries really. =#FF0000How can Ford be in a position to return when he hasn't run in 6 weeks? Surely thats just asking for his hamstring to go again. The best news by far is about Webbo and I guess the news about Dave Allen is better than what people 1st feared.
I suppose the most relieving thing at this stage is that we should have several players (Webbo, Coyle, Ford, Houghton, Farrell, Allen and Gaskell) all back in a matter of weeks rather than months. Just hope no more go down with injuries and if we can replace Haggerty and Pickersgill, then you never know we might be somewhere near full strength again - hard to see it at the moment but fingers crossed eh?'"
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"hes not big enough or strong enough.
come back when hes a man not a boy !'"
Some excellent one on one tackles on men twice the size of him yesterday.
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| yep i was there and still stand by what i said.
dont rate him AT ALL
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"yep i was there and still stand by what i said.
dont rate him AT ALL'"
Rate him more than you.You a ex player who is bitter by any chance.Who you expect to have in this league?Lockyer then maybe you be happy.
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| Oh yeah im a jelous ex player of danny hulme !!
Don’t think so im just having my opinion im entitled to that, dont think many of his team mates rate him either.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Oh yeah im a jelous ex player of danny hulme !!
Don’t think so im just having my opinion im entitled to that, dont think many of his team mates rate him either.'"
Conjecture.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Oh yeah im a jelous ex player of danny hulme !!
Don’t think so im just having my opinion im entitled to that, dont think many of his team mates rate him either.'"
This always gets me. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to have that opinion and not have it ever challenged or questioned. People aren't trying to silence you, they're disagreeing with you. Your opinion is based on a few appearences early on into his career. People are fed up of moaning around here, look at what happened to Stephen Myler. Give him his chance and get off his back!
If it were up to you Shane Grady never would have gotten out of the starting blocks, and now he is doing great.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"Oh yeah im a jelous ex player of danny hulme !!
Don’t think so im just having my opinion im entitled to that, dont think many of his team mates rate him either.'"
Yes you are entitled to a opinion based on 2 first team appearances.He has scored 3 in them. I could understand if mentioned a player been here a few years like yates.I have not seen lots of hulme but what i have seen he looks a decent player.
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| Quote ="JAMIE86"yep i was there and still stand by what i said.
dont rate him AT ALL'"
ok, that try he scored how did you rate that, you know his support play to that superb break from another youngster Paddy Flynn and the way he found his way to the line leaving the defence in tatter was that "poo" ?
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| I must admit when i first heard Danny was a first team squad member i was really excited. His dad in no uncertain terms was a legend for this club, a great leader and was tough as nails and he could play a bit too. I would rank him in my top 4 Widnes players along with his brother/Tony Myler and Offiah. Judging Danny purely on performances thus far he has done absolutely nothing wrong and his core skills appear to be very good. He can defend as well as attack when needed and isnt scared of anyone. He also looks to have a fair bit of pace and judging by his determination in getting over the whitewash on Monday i see no problem with him whatsoever. His dad doesnt take any prisoners and has brought him up the right way, im sure he's seen all the videos of his dad so knows what he has to live up too.
My opinion is we have a little star that needs support, im judging Danny on his own merits not just because of the name. He's done everything needed of him thus far.
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| Danny’s doing very well. Cautious optimism is the way to view young, precocious talent. Over-the-top praise and high expectations can lead to disappointment (see Scott Yates for details). Too much expectation will lead to knee jerk reactions to the inevitable mistakes young players make while developing. This adds a kind of pressure that is unwarranted and which can affect performance.
Mindless damning of a player who’s only played two games is just silly though. Jamie needs to get a grip!
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| From what I have seen of Hulme, he looks an exciting prospect. To say he is poo is just complete madness. His tackling is very good (he actually tackles around the legs). His support play is superb, his distribution from acting half was crisp and he actually looked to run from dummy half, something that our current number 9 could take note of.
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