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| Quote ="fatabbott"100% this season'"
Why when things are going so well for Halifax and so badly for Bradford?
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| when did i mention halifax
which board do our interesting fans use other than tiw do you know i want to bew there getting bored on here
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| Quote ="fatabbott"when did i mention halifax
which board do our interesting fans use other than tiw do you know i want to bew there getting bored on here'"
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| The season is far from over.What we do need is things changing and from the the training to the captaincy,first of all the team need to train as a squad more than they are doing now with emphasis on moving the ball across the park with confidence instead of this five barges and a kick.Also defence need to sharpened up we are abissmal defendin our line when the opposition are in our 20 metre area.Also did anyone notice last night when webster scored his 1st try that when smithy was giving out the captains chat to the team webby was not taking any notice to what he was saying as he was over getting a drink off the water carrier.Smithys captaincy is not working as he as the say so of what happens on the pitch when we cross that white line.
Give the captaincy to webster and let him lead us around the park as he as been there and suceeded.If we had a different game plan than what we have now we would not need our wingers doing the donkey work of driving the ball in 1st 2nd and sometime 3rd tackles.We just might start with going in with the our bigger players and maybe spreading the ball and catching teams out instead of being so predictable.
We need a little general that will lead us around the park and it as been so long since we have had a decent scrum half, lets get rid of the predictable play that we have churned out for the last few seasons and play some expansive rugby,when haven scored there last try last night and there was 4 minutes left on the clock i knew it was game over for us as we dont know how to break teams down with a bit of something different it would be drive it up the middle and see if something happens.
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| Some interesting comments about Webster, i have heard from numerous people that he is a bad influence but it might be the case that people should be listening to him rather than ignoring him and casting him as an outsider. Maybe taking the captains armband away from Smithy will allow him to purley concentrate on the hooking role rather than trying to carry all leadership on his shoulders. We have to remember that Webster has done it tough with Hull KR many years back and has learnt a great deal in seeing the overhall of a small club into the potential giants that they now are.
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| Don't forget Webster was temporary player coach at Hull kR before justin Morgan arrived and I don't think he lost a game, he's a very good player with a good rugby brain.
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| It's all very confusing, we always look for faults when the team is playing badly. Did anyone notice the teams reaction after webster scored his trys yesterday? it was all hugs smiles and all seemed to be at one with him except Mark Smith.
Or was it just me?
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| Webster also came out with a very interesting quote when he was interviewed after the game he said something on the lines of " we have had injuries to players and other things have affected us also this season"also i might add that fans have commented about the atomsphere at home games is very dull and when opposing teams turn up at our place with a few fans that they make more noise than our fans.I WONDER WHY WHEN WE PLAY THE SAME BASIC CRAP EVERY TIME WE ARE AT HOME.
If you were a fan of soaps and they showed the same episode ever week would you get excited at that.
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| In webbos interview after the game he said its back to training on Monday ahead of the tough game against Leigh. As a fulltime player surely he should be training more than that
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| Quote ="willowred"In webbos interview after the game he said its back to training on Monday ahead of the tough game against Leigh. As a fulltime player surely he should be training more than that
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Maybe he got mixed up but Widnes aren't a full time team.
Anyway, in reply to the topic, I think that Widnes need changes, but will still have a bit to say in what happens in this league this year.
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| It's painfully obvious what the problem is. Speed around the ruck in both attack and defence, lack of impact up front and discipline.
We can throw the ball about when we've got momentum but when we're continually allowing teams to get the upper hand in the ruck and at the play the ball, we're being forced to drive the ball out from our own 20. The ptb was so slow with players seemingly labouring to get up off the floor, haven were set in their line and up in our faces immediately as soon as the ball went to first receiver. Our insistence on using Paddy Flynn to drive the ball out of our own 10 from dummy half simply is not working. Varkulis has much more of an impact at first receiver and gains greater yards while being able to remain standing to get a quicker play the ball.
I think we were very hard done to on Thursday night with so many penalties for holding down, Wildbore had his hand trapped by the 'haven player, Ostick the same though he did go in for 2nd effort for his sin binning. But it was those 3 penalties against Gannon and Smith that really hurt us which I thought were extremely harsh. The ref was an utter mug on those occasions.
If we can speed up our play the ball and slow the oppositions without getting penalised we'd stand a much better chance of getting on top of sides which seemingly look much quicker and much sharper than us who aren't necessarily any more skilful ball in hand.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Jeez dont i sound a negative little git over the last few posts
I think i need a break from these boards to cool myself down, rugby is making my life shorter i can feel it. Im only 27 too.
God knows how some of the old barstewards feel.'"
I refrained from posting until today to deliberately get some perspective on the game.
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| Quote ="bUsTiNyAbALLs"It's painfully obvious what the problem is. Speed around the ruck in both attack and defence, lack of impact up front and discipline.
We can throw the ball about when we've got momentum but when we're continually allowing teams to get the upper hand in the ruck and at the play the ball, we're being forced to drive the ball out from our own 20. The ptb was so slow with players seemingly labouring to get up off the floor, haven were set in their line and up in our faces immediately as soon as the ball went to first receiver. Our insistence on using Paddy Flynn to drive the ball out of our own 10 from dummy half simply is not working. Varkulis has much more of an impact at first receiver and gains greater yards while being able to remain standing to get a quicker play the ball.
I think we were very hard done to on Thursday night with so many penalties for holding down, Wildbore had his hand trapped by the 'haven player, Ostick the same though he did go in for 2nd effort for his sin binning. But it was those 3 penalties against Gannon and Smith that really hurt us which I thought were extremely harsh. The ref was an utter mug on those occasions.
If we can speed up our play the ball and slow the oppositions without getting penalised we'd stand a much better chance of getting on top of sides which seemingly look much quicker and much sharper than us who aren't necessarily any more skilful ball in hand.'"
No speed and passion at all at the mo.
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| Quote ="Pepe"The season ain't over. It doesn't look good though. We certainly need a couple of big, experienced props. Our pack is weak and pathetic. Even then we'd need the likes of Fletcher and Morrison back to make it strong. I'm sure that's not beyond our capability.
The club are going to have to do a lot of wheeler dealing to bring this about. They'll also have to make sure they bring in the right men.'" I actually feel a tad sorry for you guys(And belive me im not being patronising).
You lot had me papping myself all through my moneymoon(In the US) which fell exactly between the semi and the final of 2006 (We landed on the morning of the gf).
It could so easily have been us and not you in this situation.
Chin up guys im sure it will come good in the end.
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| Quote ="bUsTiNyAbALLs"It's painfully obvious what the problem is. Speed around the ruck in both attack and defence, lack of impact up front and discipline.
We can throw the ball about when we've got momentum but when we're continually allowing teams to get the upper hand in the ruck and at the play the ball, we're being forced to drive the ball out from our own 20. The ptb was so slow with players seemingly labouring to get up off the floor, haven were set in their line and up in our faces immediately as soon as the ball went to first receiver. Our insistence on using Paddy Flynn to drive the ball out of our own 10 from dummy half simply is not working. Varkulis has much more of an impact at first receiver and gains greater yards while being able to remain standing to get a quicker play the ball.
I think we were very hard done to on Thursday night with so many penalties for holding down, Wildbore had his hand trapped by the 'haven player, Ostick the same though he did go in for 2nd effort for his sin binning. But it was those 3 penalties against Gannon and Smith that really hurt us which I thought were extremely harsh. The ref was an utter mug on those occasions.
If we can speed up our play the ball and slow the oppositions without getting penalised we'd stand a much better chance of getting on top of sides which seemingly look much quicker and much sharper than us who aren't necessarily any more skilful ball in hand.'" I would agree with that the ruck control by you boys wasnt good and imho that was what cost you the game as halifax scored a couple of times on the back of penalties because of it.
You were not far away from wining that game at all.
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| On a positve note, hopefully we are having all our injuries now rather than at the business end of the season. I think we would benefit from taking the arm band off smithy and handing it to webster. I cant for the life of me imagine he goes to training thinking i am gonna be an awkward bugger today.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"....'" Actually it's
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| Quote ="manxviking"Actually it's
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It didn't stop the Titanic from going down and I doubt it will keep Widnes up either
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| Quote ="Pepe"It didn't stop the Titanic from going down and I doubt it will keep Widnes up either
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Compartmentalised---bulkhead??
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"Compartmentalised---bulkhead??'"
Morse code SOS
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| Quote ="Pepe"Morse code SOS'"
S'pose that makes a bit more sense!!
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| Quote ="Pepe"Morse code SOS'" A pint for you next time I'm over sir
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| Quote ="manxviking"A pint for you next time I'm over sir
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