we are a 2nd rate championship team, this is ridiculous.

next week well be embarrassed by leigh in front of the nation again

yes we pulled it back second half but we had a 100mph wind behind us

taking the 2 points shows our lack of ambition

seasons over imo

It'll be the first team we've embarrassed on TV, if we do - we've lost every TV game, in the past three seasons - eight of them!!

barring webster we showed no quality whatsoever. varkulis was a joke, what the hell was it with our 'players' being desperate to volley the ball like a beach ball? disgraceful

Lack of confidence and leadership

That decision cost you the game , Haven were dead on their feet

And then a penalty given away by Mr Doran

we need to get rid of doran he is a complete and utter liability

send him back to leigh for next week, mind you the way things have been going - he'd have a stormer and we'd lose it by a country mile.

drop the penalty maching give mullally a go

Toulouse at home?

Leigh haven't played Toulouse at home yet

Thought it was Widnes, never mind

Have to agree. After a poor start, the game was there for the taking at that point.

the only thing we can take from our situation is that in the long run most of these scumbags wont be playing for us

send him back to fax..............please.

woo his confidence is low now why would we want to take him back although he played well for us

Wrong--at least 4 we have won

Leigh at the start of season 3 years ago?
Salford last season
Toulouse this season
and of course the NR Cup Final

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Think he is confused Starbug

I feel for Varks looks like bad coaching has turned him in to a shadow of his former self. I think he should get on at the missus to move closer to Yorkshire.

Webbo did the biz tonight though. Good on ya ginner.

Lets hope we some more of this from him

He's an organisor not a chicken farmer. If the other twelve on the pitch want to run around headless, then what do you expect Webbo to do about it?

Follow his instructions, use the Ginger Maestro in the right way, and you'll go far.

I agree.

I don't know if its true, but I don't understand all this bull about power struggles within the club. If Webbo is saying do things in a certain way, then instead of other players getting all upset about it, why don't they just let Webbo get on with it and back him up as best they can? Over past few weeks people have tried to say Webster is trouble and wanting things all his own way - basically making him a scapegoat. If he plays like that every week, the other players should appogise to him and start to use pull together and use his talents as best they can.

Odd decision to go for the two points.

3 typical Webster tries , but he and Smith do not seem to be clicking.
A few times the ball went the other way with Webbo shouting for it , whilst you were in the 20m zone.

Right decision. Our record for scoring close to the line this season is rubbish. Much improved performance - given the amount of possession they had, Haven should have buried us.

Especially with the amount of time remaining, there was around 14/15 minutes left IIRC