Lots of Ifs and Buts going on here.

Your not in Super League yet

It's called a hypothetical situation...that's why there are lots of 'if's and not any 'when's

It's like if there was a thread started called.. "if one of us had won the lottery last weekend who would we have bought for the club?"..
You wouldn't expect people turning up at the bottom of the thread to give you a reality check.

But we seem to be the only fans in Rugby League who cannot talk about the possibility without being called arrogant.

Nothing is taken for granted by Widnes fans. We have had far too many false dawns and bitter disappointments for that to happen.

I’d love to have a local derby with the Cusaders =#FF0000[size=200IF [/sizewe ever get to SL.

I actually wish them well. Just because I didn’t agree with their initial inclusion, or they way they have simply been shunted ooop north, doesn’t mean to say I hold the club or it’s fans in contempt. I dislike the dishonesty and double standards of the RFL, and that’s where any discontent I have is aimed.

If the Crusaders can pull in 7000/8000, you can only applaud it. We could actually see an expansion club which is actually viable. Fanbase is one of the most important metrics imo. That is what helps you grow exponentially, and keeps your wealthy backers wealthy and happy to keep digging – but less deeply – into their pockets.

North Wales is starved of top class sport and could be a very fertile area for the sport to grow. It seems better already than the club based in the South. My main concern is the complete lack of an amateur scene in North Wales and being reliant on a youth system based 150 mile away. Let’s hope the Crusaders and the RFL can put a bit of effort into developing this area too.

Yes we are, it's nailed on. Steve O'Connor said so.