Sharps getting all the blame but what about our 'wonder' signing? For me he was e with a capitol S today. Looked unfit and suffered the same issues as when Whiting was playing in that centre position. Gleesons fault or coaching?

Took a knock early on today and i don't think he ever shook it off fully.

the whole right side including sharp,gleeson,tickle and obst was very poor. in attack he dint get nowt but again that comes down to attacking structure of the team which is very poor

Except for the move near the end which, had Turner caught the Obst ball, may well have won us the match.

Our right side is infinitely better when Long plays as his left to right passing ability is superb.

Anyone else you want to blame?

Fitzgibbon wasnt much better....goes in slow motion when he gets ball.

but it dint and longys passing is not superb

should've passed to sharp in the early part of the game when we had a 2 on 1, sharp would have scored easilto put us up 10/12-4

Dint it ?

well we dint win the game did we

Will Sharp or no Will Sharp, Martin Gleeson or no Martin Gleeson, the fact is our whole right side supposedly sliding defence is poor and every team we play targets this as it is so easy to create 4 or 5 on 3 situations.

Look at the video for Hodgson's third try and the whole team just walk across the field from the play the ball on the far touchline.

What you on about?

I said the backs generally were poor but put some of that down to us having only one half back.

Ive posted about Gleeson as whilst Sharp was poor again Gleeson wasnt much btter and was partly to blame for Sharps poor showing.

As for Fitz i think hes actually a weak lin in the team. He should go at the end of the season imo as hes past his best now and Agars reliance on him in attack stifles the teams creativity.

Agree entirely about Fitz.

I agree; for me it's the 'structure' or lack of that's exacerbating the whole situation. I.e. Gleeson defending infield with Obst outside of him. It's not as if he can't defend, he plays at hooker ffs. There's a reason why Briscoe doesn't get caught out often in defence = Yeaman: They're a settled pair and work as such. If teams are throwing the ball wide at every occasion then the centre needs to be out wide to assist "his" winger.

I agree with that and said the same all season because Long defends there when he's fit as well. I can't get my head round it.

Throw in Manu and you get a better idea why there's such a good understanding between the three of them

On the other side of the field you then have the most disrupted flank in Super league: Whiting/Sharp/Lyne, Turner/Whiting/Gleeson, Long/Obst, Westerman/Tickle who moves to prop on occasions.

The ball hardly ever went out to Gleeson, Yeaman never saw much either. Our ball movement was poor today, be glad to get Longy back next week.

You mean the Longy who is a waste of space?

Aye but not in my eyes.

I blame Blacklock

Yeaman could do with passing more to his winger.

Been saying that about fitz for a long time. Plus he's overplayed and it gets worse the longer the game goes on

Great point LL, what makes me scratch my head is that it's been a weakness all season and we don't seem to be putting it right. Even if it is down to coaching (or lack of), surely Sharp/Gleeson/Tickle should be wise to it.

Spot on post...! Yeaman grafts 2 get back into a decent defensive position, slides well and helps out Briscoe.! On the opposite side Gleeson had a very poor game today leaving Sharpe high and dry on 2 occasions..!

The knock he took on early on didn't help him, however he did look on occasions not 100% match fit....!

Add to that Obst having a poor defensive game it just re-iterated how weak we were on that side, with brown and Brough playing really well especially in the kicking department they punished us...! Maybe if one of them played well we might have just got away with it...!

Me neither.

Sharp would have scored easily if, and that's a big IF he had caught the ball. That element of doubt was probably why Gleeson didn't even bother attempting the pass imo.