What would be the point of that?

And probably two or three props. I'd worry about us signing Ellis from a salary cap point of view. If he'll demand as much as people seem to think, it could leave us rather unbalanced. In all honesty, I would be happier with someone like Whitehead - not quite as good, but a lot cheaper and a lot younger.

just remembered we're not buying him, never mind haha

a fair few players travel from further afield to their clubs

I'm leaning more towards that way of thinking if we can get the right sort of players for the positions in which we have greater need, too.

Ellis is world class and would be a sensational signing for a number of reasons. It would be a real signal of intent.

I hear what people are saying about strengthening other positions but it goes without saying that Ellis would improve us and it's great to hear we are amongst the front runners for his signature.

Not getting my hopes up, mind

Exactly. Any world class player should be welcomed in. If Hull want to be back at the top it's the Ellis type players that need to be playing for us and not against us. Leeds must be favourites but it's good to see us in there giving it a shot.

So, who or where do we sacrifice to fit him under the cap?

Would the improvement that he would bring, be greater or less than the improvement we would gain, from strengthening our weak areas?

At first i was all for ellis but think priority has to be a centre and a stand off
aswell as keeping manu and o meley

At first i was all for ellis but think priority has to be a centre and a stand off
aswell as keeping manu and o meley

At first i was all for ellis but think priority has to be a centre and a stand off
aswell as keeping manu and o meley

How could I answer about the cap ? Like you I don't know who is on what, who is staying, who is definitely going ? etc. etc. Why wouldn't we have room on the cap but Leeds, for example, would ? There are a handful of English world class players in world RL and he is one of them. This calibre of player is not ten a penny and doesn't become available very often.

I could turn your perfectly fair questions around and ask how many other world class players will become available for 2013 in the positions where we supposedly need to strengthen ? Maybe a few - maybe none at all. We know Ellis is available and I'm glad we're in for him. With a house in Wetherby and previous at Leeds he'll likely finish up there.

Brilliant player, would be an awesome signing.

World class player but i'd rather strengthen other areas. Prop, centre and SO are the key areas for me.

I have a house in Leeds and lived there for 20+ years but I don't want to go back.



Wetherby is north east Leeds, near the A1 and handy for West Hull

Let us put an offer in. He takes it, good. If not we move on. We shouldn't break the bank for him.

Do people not think that signing a player of the calibre of Ellis would help us to attract other quality players?

My opinion also !!
Would be an awesome signing but rather have three others .....

Of course, however quality players of his calibre come at a price, were not Wire you know

Yes they do but if we want to be a club challenging for honours then surely this is the quality of player we have to be looking at. We are at last being linked with world class players and people are complaining at having to use up too much salary cap to get them.

if ellis chose to come to us it would prove PG and AP can sell the future of the club to players from the very top drawer

Possible scenario:-

New SO - Paid for by Horne
New centre - Paid for by Martin/Unused £60k
New prop - Paid for by Moa

So keep Ogre and miss out on Ellis or sign Ellis and lose Ogre and move Tickle to prop. That is assuming Ellis wants to come which I have my reservations on.

Four things will decide this move, Salary, Ability to win Medals, Relationship and Geography.

Assuming it's Hull v Leeds, then...

Salary: If it's down to just payments within the Salary Cap, then it should be an even race as I assume both max out on their cap and Leeds would need to juggle just as much as Hull. Not sure what other benefits are also allowed with in a players contract, e.g car, house etc

Medals: Leeds would take this one. Their record is far superior, except in the Challenge Cup. In the past 34 years, Leeds have only won one Challenge Cup, Hull have won two.



Relationship: Ex Leeds player who only left to play in the NRL would suggest a return to Leeds. The PG factor may help, however Leeds may entice GE with a promise of a future Coaching role if he's interested.

Geography: The wetherby factor may be convenient. However, if he's just lived in Oz away from wetherby, he's not going to get too hung up on an extra 50 miles travel.



At the end of the day, I expect he'll sign for Leeds. However, I agree with Staffs FC that GE is the type of player we should be looking to sign going forward. Hope the club go for it, but also keep other options open, so we don't end up without a Plan B or C and panic buy in Januray 2013. Trust PG and AP to sort us out.

a handy scenario could be, we let briscoe join wests a year early, they let ellis leave a year early, both players agree with respective clubs, done deal....hopefully

Still think we need a quality centre. Possibley GE Could cover the centre if we really needed it.

But i still think we need to throw money at sam to try n persuade him to stay.

O'Meley, i think were seeing the best of him now after 2 wasted seasons but i think we should try n keep him for n extra year.