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| Quote ="Sheldon"If we signed moa our overseas players quota would be full.'"
Are you sure, Im confused !!!
Everyone is saying the club have let Moa down. Maybe Moa has asked for silly money to re sign ???
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If we signed moa our overseas players quota would be full.'"
Was he quota this season?
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Was he quota this season?'"
I dont think so and thats why I ask ??
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Was he quota this season?'"
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"yes'"
He wasnt or at least I dont think so. He is KOLPAK.
'In rugby league and rugby union, the Kolpak ruling has allowed teams to sign many players from Fiji, Tonga and Samoa, all of which are also ACP countries.'
Sam is Tongan.
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| We can have 6 overseas trained players for 2010, a maximum of 5 quota, it was 8 in 2009 and a maximum of 5 quota players.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"We can have 6 overseas trained players for 2010, a maximum of 5 quota, it was 8 in 2009 and a maximum of 5 quota players.'"
Oh Im confused now !!
Ill take your word for it that he would take the last spot if he decides to stay !!
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| Kolpak doesn't really exist anymore. We have 6 spots in total,five of which can be what we used to call "quota". The other one being what we use to call "kolpak" but now call non-fed. Sam counts as a non-fed and DOES take up one of the places.
Next season we can have five and it doesn't matter where they come from or what passports they hold. It is five. O'Meley, Fitz, Berrigan, Cusack makes four and Sam would be the last one. Manu doesn't count because he's got the same "residency" exemption as Gene and Aizue had.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If we signed moa our overseas players quota would be full.'"
but we will struggle to get another overseas player in late in the season. Plus then there's the VISA lottery to take into account
last autumn we went all out for a halfback and found the one the only Chris Thorman
if there was a chance of us getting a top stand off in, I'd rather we went for that..but i just can't see one becoming available.
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| Quote ="UllFC"but we will struggle to get another overseas player in late in the season. Plus then there's the VISA lottery to take into account
last autumn we went all out for a halfback and found the one the only Chris Thorman
if there was a chance of us getting a top stand off in, I'd rather we went for that..but i just can't see one becoming available.'"
I just cant see Agar thinking that is a priority. I also dont think there is the money to buy a 'top' one even if he did. We are one of the well behaved clubs who do stick to the salary cap you know !
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Wouldnt Moa take up one of them Kolpak spaces (or whatever they are !) being Tongan and not Quota space thereby still leaving us with one Quota spot even if he did sign ??? Its all so confusing !!!
Not that we would have much money to sign !!!'" Kolpak places no longer exist.
It now all about where a player trained before he became 21.
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| There exceptions to the rules as well. Manu doesn't count anymore because of the 4 year residencey rule, if Tony had have extended his contract he would have come off the overseas list for been a super league player early 2008 and been in the last year of his contract.
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| Your allowed 6 qoverseas players, a maximum of 5 which can be quota (ie. Berrigan, Cusack, O'Meley and Fitzgibbon) and the rest are kolpak (ie. Lauaki and Moa).
So you could have 5 quota and 1 kolpak or
4 and 2 or
3 and 3 etc.
Therefore Moa would be our final overseas player.
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| Quote ="dandaman"link or source???'"
Me sorry didn't realise i had too
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| Quote ="Sheldon"There exceptions to the rules as well. Manu doesn't count anymore because of the 4 year residencey rule, if Tony had have extended his contract he would have come off the overseas list for been a super league player early 2008 and been in the last year of his contract.'"
Yes. Manu is exempt because he had played in Super League before the new overseas rules came in place. However, only players who qualify for the old kolpak ruling can apply for dispenstation.
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"When ?'"
Today
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| Quote ="The Brother"Today'"
Great news. Still I'll believe when its on the website. Monday it is then Definately 2 year ?
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| Its not 5 its 6, Lauaki? , Manu isn't on the same ruling as gene and aizue.
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| Clear as mud !!!
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| Quote ="FC Callum"Great news. Still I'll believe when its on the website. Monday it is then
Definately 2 year ?'"
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| COME ON THE TONGAN MAFIA !!
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