Now I [iam[/i confused, because that's completely different to how I understood the rule operated. I thought that if the player had his contract extended at the same club then it counted as continuous service and he could therefore apply to be removed from the quota.

Most puzzling.

Aye.

Overseas quota - Berrigan, Cusack, Fitzgibbon
Overseas trained - Lauaki, Manu

This leaves us with one overseas spot (trained or quota) spare.

Link - www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Oper ... rt%202.pdf bottom of page 3 E-mail I recieved from the RFL 3 weeks ago. Quote Non-Federation Trained players who where in the British game before February 2008 may apply to be re-classified as Federation Trained in their final year of their current contract. Initially this was to allow the player to continue his employment at his present club, this has subsequently been amended and the dispensation is directly awarded to player regardless of him joining a new club. Although they may apply in their final year it does not come in to force until his contract expires in November of that year. '"

Link - www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Oper ... rt%202.pdf bottom of page 3 E-mail I recieved from the RFL 3 weeks ago. Quote Non-Federation Trained players who where in the British game before February 2008 may apply to be re-classified as Federation Trained in their final year of their current contract. Initially this was to allow the player to continue his employment at his present club, this has subsequently been amended and the dispensation is directly awarded to player regardless of him joining a new club. Although they may apply in their final year it does not come in to force until his contract expires in November of that year. '"

Looks like resigning Cusack was REALLY unambitious then.

Im curious why Lauaki went to all the trouble to become a non fed player when it doesnt matter eitherway, unless Manu signed before 1st Feb 08(we announced his resigning 3rd Feb 0icon_cool.gif and he's applying to become a fed player for his last year of his current contract.

Quote ="gazcoops"Link - www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Oper ... rt%202.pdf bottom of page 3 E-mail I recieved from the RFL 3 weeks ago.'" Hang on - I don't think that means what you think it does. I read that to mean that as long as Tony applies to come off the non-fed quota sometime this season, he comes off in November and no longer counts as an overseas player from then on regardless of who he signs for. So he basically becomes a UK Trained player for the rest of his career, provided he applies before his current contract runs out.

Quote ="gazcoops"Link - www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/Oper ... rt%202.pdf bottom of page 3 E-mail I recieved from the RFL 3 weeks ago.'" Hang on - I don't think that means what you think it does. I read that to mean that as long as Tony applies to come off the non-fed quota sometime this season, he comes off in November and no longer counts as an overseas player from then on regardless of who he signs for. So he basically becomes a UK Trained player for the rest of his career, provided he applies before his current contract runs out.

Manu was in the British game before Feb 08 - we signed him from Cas.

That email you have indicates to me that both Tony and Manu can apply to come off the OS quota - Tony can apply this year to come off from next year, and Manu can apply next year to come off from 2011.

Manu will count on our OS quota next season regardless.

I think.

The only thing that's obvious in any of the statements and documentation on quotas and rule changes is that the RFL are rubbish at defining and communicating the rules. Hacked off, not least because clubs like Hull, who have worked hard to anticipate increasing homegrown and reducing overseas quotas may as well not have bothered if the likes of Tony can now get classed as UK trained. Nothing against him personally, but we've built up our homegrown player base in anticipation of everyone having to cope with fewer overseas players, and they actually don't, at least in the medium term.

These quota rules are confusing to say the least. I think it should be plain and simple - if your born outside Britain or Ireland, your an overseas player.

Would be a brave man who would suck cath's dick

...and don't forget that if we were to sign an English player from union they would also count on quota as the rules stand!

Surely if that was challenged under employment law that would be changed

we'd more than likely fook it up and he would end up taking 2 quota spaces

or we would sign tangata toa from celtic and the idiots in the office would put it down as 2 players coming

It's a self imposed ruling by the clubs. Can't be enforced legally

How? Employment Law doesnt cover non-legislative quota's imposed by individual sports. (and the rules surrounding it)

Moore is average like Koki had one good season, kear seems to having a knack of getting players playing above their station, only to be average for the nxt couple of seasons.

Thacks and King are far better players, Moore is decent going forward but is awful in defence, people on here get drawn in too easy by watching a player had a couple of great games and then thinking they are amazing.

I'd be happy enough to see Thacks, King and Moore at other clubs than FC next year.

Of the 3, I'd rather have Thackray.

Likewise.

Agree. With Cusack, Dowes, Radford, Lauaki definately here though i would rather we keep Moa and Maloney and use those 6.

Moa given the game time for me would become our 2nd impact prop with Lauaki. Cusack, Dowes and Radford to rotate which 2 is in the 17 at any point in time.

I'd keep King think he has been playing well the last three games, i would give him a start next week.

I'd keep Thacks and King before Radford.

we don't have much choice regarding radford though. Thought he did ok at prop on Friday.
Radford, dowes, thackray, lauaki, cusack, king, moa and maloney would do ok IMO.