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| Quote ="Robbo4"Raynor and Motu. Unless were just talking forwards?'"
Would throw Cordoba into that as well....he is always looking for a quick ptb.
The ones to go for me
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Ive said for a while now that i would use Lee and Houghton as hookers for next year with Berro either in the right centre or gone.'" TBH id rather keep berro at 9 with houghton, lee to go for me,
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"As you have said both are similar types of player. Dowes makes more metres and more tackles per match. He also finds his front better imo and gets a swifter ptb. Neither are big offloaders of tackle busters.
There is not too much between them but there is no way the Cusack is better than Dowes to the point that he is worth paying off or using just as back-up.'"
Neither players would even get on the Huddersfield bench. Not worth arguing about either of them.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Ive said for a while now that i would use Lee and Houghton as hookers for next year with Berro either in the right centre or gone.'"
Stand off for me.....2 halfs with a kicking game and Berro would compliment Long.
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| Just had a look a Thackray's stats on the SL site - not too bad. I know they don't tell the whole story, but even so.
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| Quote ="stighead"the way lee is playing i would say he is better then houghton and i dont think you would have berro at centre because craig hall has been playing well since he came back from widnes and berro i think is a lazy player but good i think we need to keep berro because hes the only one that really creates anything at the club. He also put tickle i would say tickle is 1 of the best if not the best player at the club atm'"
IMO i dont think lee is playing better than houghton. i wouldnt say tickle is one of the best players, what makes you say that?
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| Quote ="Cory69"IMO i dont think lee is playing better than houghton. i wouldnt say tickle is one of the best players, what makes you say that?'"
The only part of Houghtons game that is better than Lee in the hooking role is his skoot from the PTB IMO.
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| Quote ="stighead"kingy has got contract for next season and i thought he played real good against rovers tackled everything that ran at him'"
Why are people finding the concept of this thread so hard to understand?
And anyway, for me if Agar really wants to stamp his authority with this clearout then he needs to do more than just release players who's contracts are up. Obviously it would be best if we could get other clubs to take them off our hands as we can't waste too much much money paying people off, but making an example of Paul King would be a great way to start.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Just had a look a Thackray's stats on the SL site - not too bad. I know they don't tell the whole story, but even so.'"
I just checked that out, surprisingly low amount of errors and conceded penalties in comparison to other props that have played a similar amount of games.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The only part of Houghtons game that is better than Lee in the hooking role is his skoot from the PTB IMO.'" agreed
also tickle is 1 of the best players because his kicking is good hes a strong runner and he is consistant he is 1 of the best players but thats only my opinion mate
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| Quote ="stighead"the way lee is playing i would say he is better then houghton and i dont think you would have berro at centre because craig hall has been playing well since he came back from widnes and berro i think is a lazy player but good i think we need to keep berro because hes the only one that really creates anything at the club. He also put tickle i would say tickle is 1 of the best if not the best player at the club atm'"
do u watch the same games???
berrigan lazy? lee better than houghton?? tickle best player at the club?
in my opinion we could use houghton as starting hooker next year if we saw fit, allowing us to use berrigan maybe at 7 if long gets injured or even at centre......
during the derby match berrigan showed his outside back class when he breezed past clint newton only for newton to ankle tap him and stopping a certain try...
regards tickle, my views are that his defence is subject at best, he misses to many tackles for me, ones in which he should make, i also find his positional play in the defensive line leaves alot to be desired aswell, but with ball in hand he's one of our better go-forward second rowers in my opinion
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"Motu Tony
Chris Thorman
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cant argue with many of them....
also put in the list broughton,lee,
i couldnt beleive my eyes at caravan park on sunday for the reserves match when the team sheet declared NATHAN FREER at number 8!! how long has he been at the club and done simply nothing in the first team....GET RID...
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| its only my opinion everyone is entitled to one and also all the players must be good or they wouldnt make it at that level
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The only part of Houghtons game that is better than Lee in the hooking role is his skoot from the PTB IMO.'" he adds pace around that area.
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| Quote ="Standee"People wanting to bin Houghton are a bit odd!'" i dont want to bin him he is good he has pace round the ruck and reads the game well but im sorry if i offended any of you by me thinking that tommy lee has played well this season
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| Quote ="stighead"i dont want to bin him he is good he has pace round the ruck and reads the game well but im sorry if i offended any of you by me thinking that tommy lee has played well this season'"
yes lee has played well, because he was awful last season and this season he has not had to take any responsibility as he did last year. he makes mistakes when the pressure is on...
regards houghton, someone posted what does he bring to the team other than scoots??
well, he did give ben fisher abit of a kickin' on saturday
also think he gives us some enthusiasm and tackles well when he's on..
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| Quote ="Standee"People wanting to bin Houghton are a bit odd!'"
I just think Tommy Lee and Shaun Berrigan are better options.
We don't need 3 hookers.
For me, Danny Houghton's distribution for PTB is far too slow for what we need.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"cant argue with many of them....
also put in the list broughton,lee,
i couldnt beleive my eyes at caravan park on sunday for the reserves match when the team sheet declared NATHAN FREER at number 8!! how long has he been at the club and done simply nothing in the first team....GET RID...'"
Broughton isn't signed to us though is he?
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"I just think Tommy Lee and Shaun Berrigan are better options.
We don't need 3 hookers.
For me, Danny Houghton's distribution for PTB is far too slow for what we need.'"
slower than tommy lee?? you must be joking....lee looks and passes asme way, far too predicatble in my eyes
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| Quote ="Newsom 13"I just think Tommy Lee and Shaun Berrigan are better options.
We don't need 3 hookers.
For me, Danny Houghton's distribution for PTB is far too slow for what we need.'"
I think Tommy Lee's distribution is the slowest out of the three hookers.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I think Tommy Lee's distribution is the slowest out of the three hookers.'" spot on
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| I can't recall which game, but I know one game this season Danny Houghton knocked on twice because he was too slow.
By the time he'd picked it up to pass, the opposing player had got his arm round and simply tapped the ball out of his hands!
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"yes lee has played well, because he was awful last season and this season he has not had to take any responsibility as he did last year. he makes mistakes when the pressure is on...
regards houghton, someone posted what does he bring to the team other than scoots??
well, he did give ben fisher abit of a kickin' on saturday
also think he gives us some enthusiasm and tackles well when he's on..'" he does yes they should alternate but i think lee should play hooker or no where at all because he seems to be useless everywhere else
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