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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"Spelling
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| lets just wait until the outcome, then the plastics from LS can either be contrite, or crow, I care not, come on Manly.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Where's your full stop?
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Im such a rebel
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| Quote ="Standee"lets just wait until the outcome, then the plastics from LS can either be contrite, or crow, I care not, come on Manly.'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"That being the case, it seems very odd to accuse Leeds of any wrong doing.'"
Everyone at this end knows it was inside information after the c*ck monster sold up to AP.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Everyone at this end knows it was inside information after the c*ck monster sold up to AP.
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What rule is broken by a former shareholder giving information to a separate company after they have left?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"What rule is broken by a former shareholder giving information to a separate company after they have left?'"
She most definitely knew about it but did i say it was her?.
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| Not wanting to side with leeds at all as I dont like them, we signed your star standoff with no comeback so what pearson thinks he can do with the nicking of a 17 year old academy kid is quite frankly laughable.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin" what pearson thinks he can do with the nicking of a 17 year old academy kid is quite frankly laughable.'"
Get some compensation for developing said player, apparently. Is that funny? Not so much.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Get some compensation for developing said player, apparently. Is that funny? Not so much.'"
Developing a player who is that good he went out of contract? serves hull right and deserve nothing.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Developing a player who is that good he went out of contract? serves hull right and deserve nothing.'"
You've changed tack here. Your initial point was that Pearson thinking he could get anything from a tribunal was "laughable". In fact, if he is entitled to and gets any compensation under RFL guidelines, it's worthwhile and sensible, wouldn't you agree?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Get some compensation for developing said player, apparently. Is that funny? Not so much.'"
Scraping the barrel, trying to get as much coin together to cover these huge losses.
Funny how the dwindling crowds at the KC havent helped matters. And you call us plastics. Funny.
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"Scraping the barrel, trying to get as much coin together to cover these huge losses.
Funny how the dwindling crowds at the KC havent helped matters. And you call us plastics. Funny.'"
I really don't understand your venom against our club and supporters.
There's going to be a tribunal regarding Leeds signing of Luke Briscoe. I know you claim Pearson is lying about this, but personally I'm confident that he wouldn't make this up. Assuming this is true, the RFL will adjudicate according to whatever its guidelines are. No need to get all riled up and spiky about it. Let's see whether there's been 100% compliance and appropriate compensation has been transacted.
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| Luke Briscoe wasn't even the best player in his age group at the club. No big loss.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Luke Briscoe wasn't even the best player in his age group at the club. No big loss.'"
Comments like that aren't going to help AP squeeze any money out of Leeds.
I don't see any percentage in this, tbh. Maybe I'm missing something? 11th and 12th fingers, obviously, but apart from that.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Comments like that aren't going to help AP squeeze any money out of Leeds.
I don't see any percentage in this, tbh. Maybe I'm missing something? 11th and 12th fingers, obviously, but apart from that.'"
For me this isn't about the money. Imo AP is making a point to all concerned; It's a case of one up man-ship, a reminder to the likes of Kath et al that he won't stand by and watch them take liberties with him or the club. Good on him I say.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Comments like that aren't going to help AP squeeze any money out of Leeds.
I don't see any percentage in this, tbh. Maybe I'm missing something? 11th and 12th fingers, obviously, but apart from that.'"
Even if he hits the jackpot though, the figures are pretty small.
[iCOMPENSATION FORMULA
C1:3:16 Where a transfer is to take place pursuant to Operational Rule C1:3:14 above and the two
Clubs are unable to reach agreement then the following scale of payments shall apply:
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(b) Player moving from Super League (or from a Championship Club running an RFL
approved scholarship scheme) to Super League
A sum equivalent to the sum of £115 per week of training and education invested in
the Player and a further lump sum of £5,000 if the Player attains a salary of £25,000
per annum or more with the new Club.[/i
Given that there are also guidelines relating to age and experience, representative appearances and the cost of bringing the player to the club it seems like the final figure would be little more than £10,000
Hardly a fortune in the grand scheme of things.
...which makes me wonder what his motives really are.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Luke Briscoe wasn't even the best player in his age group at the club. No big loss.'"
or leeds are using luke to try and sign tom when his contract is up!
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| I don't see what we have to gain really but if AP feels it's worth it then fine with me.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Hardly a fortune in the grand scheme of things.
...which makes me wonder what his motives really are.'"
I suspect, as others have already suggested, that this is more about putting down a marker than any immediate material benefit. Plus there may be some evidence against the former board that isn't in the public domain.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I suspect, as others have already suggested, that this is more about putting down a marker than any immediate material benefit. Plus there may be some evidence against the former board that isn't in the public domain.'"
Even then I can't see what's to gain. If he wants to sour relationships between Leeds and Hull, then given the record with loan signings, there's only one loser. Isn't there alos a risk of upsetting big brother if he has a go at Luke?
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Even then I can't see what's to gain. If he wants to sour relationships between Leeds and Hull, then given the record with loan signings, there's only one loser. Isn't there alos a risk of upsetting big brother if he has a go at Luke?'"
We already have a sour relationship with Leeds. Always have had really. There's been a temporary veneer of cooperation for the last few years under the old regime, but it was all smoke and mirrors. We have far more to gain than lose byr taking an independent stand.
In any case, why should being made to play by the rules cause any club to spit their dummy?
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Even then I can't see what's to gain. If he wants to sour relationships between Leeds and Hull, then given the record with loan signings, there's only one loser. Isn't there alos a risk of upsetting big brother if he has a go at Luke?'"
'The record with loan signings' is an interesting one. A lot of that provided more benefit to Leeds than Hull IMO, because we still won naff all, but your lot got a chance to see which of your youngsters might be up to SL and which weren't, whilst we would have the good ones taken back from us, the duffers offered to us (and worse still, sometimes taken), and be another year on with no further idea on whether or not our own kids might be better. It was a good little arrangement for Leeds, somebody else test driving their academy lads without Leeds having to take any risk of affecting their results. Looks like they might be moving on to Wakey now.
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| At the end of the day, we messed up his contract. We let it expire and we lost him.
As much as I hate to say, it was us who messed up Cooke's contract, it was up to us to ensure he'd signed it and we didn't.
We may be entitled to some compensation with Briscoe, but at the end of the day all we can do is ensure all our players contract's are watertight in the future. We only have 30-40 players on contract at the club and it shouldn't take too long to check that they have been signed and we are happy with the length of each contract.
It's basic business and if we don't grasp it, we'll be discussing this subject again in the future!
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"For me this isn't about the money. Imo AP is making a point to all concerned; It's a case of one up man-ship, a reminder to the likes of Kath et al that he won't stand by and watch them take liberties with him or the club. Good on him I say.'"
This.
Hope Uncle Kath gets her comeuppance.
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