Great shame what Taylor has become, had potential to be a club legend, instead i will be happy when he comes off the payroll.

What has Griffin done that has been confirmed rather than being message board rumours?

The post on here about telling Hodgson to eff off at training was confirmed to me by a reliable source and Hodgson’s reply was “go home, come back tomorrow with a better attitude” that started the rot with others taking a likewise stance.

certainly nothing on the field

Taylor been given a testimonial so he won't be going at the moment

Do you think we'll get a home friendly in Jan/Feb?

Can't remember the last time we had at the MKM.

Taylor is getting a testimonial - so perhaps against Rovers, or Wigan?

Salford maybe more likely - I seem to recall he left there on good terms.

All players back by in training Friday except Sao, Mitch, Hoy and Clifford?

It would be interesting to find out (not from a player with an axe to grind) how this pre season has differentiated from previous regimes.

One of the Academy lads told my business partner that it has massively changed. More emphasis on hands on the ball, even during outdoor fitness drill. They have been told to play eyes up Rugby, throw the ball about - and a lot of emphasis on pass technique, and body shape when receiving the ball to get the ball away quickly

great to hear, we have been arguably the worst ball handling team in the league for some time.

Sounds good so far and a positive move going forward as ball retention/respecting possession has been one of our biggest downfalls alongside discipline for far too long. Hopefully our line speed will also be getting improved both in attack and defence as we must have been the slowest (or laziest) team in the past few seasons in this aspect and more often than not our line looking like a dogs hind leg.

Mitch and Sao being involved in the World Cup games and rightly deserve a few more weeks off. Has anyone heard when Hoy and Clifford will arrive? IMO they should be here asap, seeing they’re both integral to the rebuild, by all means let them return to Oz for the holiday break.

I thought with saucy sue arriving at Rovers the past couple of days that Hoy and Clifford would have been on the same flight.

Agreed I would have thought Hoy and Clifford (particularly Hoy) would have been here by now to start the process of getting used to new surroundings, team mates and get some training down on the field. As you say no issue letting them go back to Australia for the Christmas break.

Sheffield and Wakey away in our friendlies then

Quote ="Irregs#16"Taylor been given a testimonial so he won't be going at the moment'" Looks like Shaul has been granted one too. https://www.totalrl.com/hull-fcs-jamie- ... e-radford/

Quote ="Irregs#16"Taylor been given a testimonial so he won't be going at the moment'" Looks like Shaul has been granted one too. https://www.totalrl.com/hull-fcs-jamie- ... e-radford/

Strange choice of words from Houghton in that Humberside interview...

In what way?

We are a Top 4 club, but a bottom 4 team.

I have no problem with the players using that sort of mindset as motivation internally to be better.

It doesn’t however sit well with me having a senior player come out and openly admitting that he thinks we’re a bottom four side. All whilst the club is in the middle of probably it’s most vital membership campaigns in recent years. There’s a feel good factor round the club at the moment, all be it the usual pre season hype, but it is justified. There’s a time and place for comments like Danny’s and imo these where both wrong.

The club can't win then can they? They come out saying Top 4 is the goal, then we fail and the fans come out saying that it's all talk. Houghton comes out and says that the league position doesn't lie, we are a bottom of the table side. That is the motivation they need to use this year to perform better, and more consistently. Damned if they do, damned if they dont

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0dgw ... are-mobile Pretty open and honest stuff from Houghton. Obvious that Hodgson lost control of the dressing room. Especially when you hear Houghton talk about having a strong guy at the top.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0dgw ... are-mobile Pretty open and honest stuff from Houghton. Obvious that Hodgson lost control of the dressing room. Especially when you hear Houghton talk about having a strong guy at the top.

He was correct in what he said. As it stands we ARE a bottom four side. We finished the season ninth. He never said we will finish in the bottom four next season.

I can't fault Danny there, we might aspire to be top 4 but anyone outside the FC fraternity who chose to study our last three campaigns would put us bottom 4 because that is the reality of where we were form wise and no doubt as an outsider coming in, where our coach has pointed out we have been. Who knows how he will do, but for now from what I'm hearing Smith has the respect of the players which is already a distinct improvement..