Not sure I understand that - [ideserve[/i to be in the super 8 ?

Me neither, that was sort of my point. The criteria for meriting inclusion in the Super 8s is now winning at Belle Vue. If you finish 8th but don't win at Belle Vue, you need to surrender your place with honour intact.

Understood !

You know exactly what my point was so don't come across all dumb. We shouldn't lose tomorrow and I don't think we will. In the event that we do and fail to qualify for the 8, there will be no justification for hard luck stories or claims we have been badly done to. And bringing up the Rovers result, really? You may as well dredge up results from the 75-76 season. They have about as much relevance.

WTF? The team we're battling against for 8th and the fixture you say defines whether we deserve a place in the 8, which they lost, this season, is irrelevant? That's nonsensical. Either way it looks like we'll fall short. No excuses, but there haven't really been any. We've had a good run with injuries this year and have tried very hard with some excellent seasons from Watts, Mini and Ellis. Coherence with ball in hand and cutting edge, plus inadequate quality at centre has done for us. Again.

That has sparked my memory as to the last time that I attended a Hull v Wakefield match. It was at Wembley in 1960 when I was in London and took along a bunch of fellow students including some who were seeing their first League match. They included 1 from India,1 from Spain, a couple from Scotland and a couple of southerners. I had persuaded them that they would see Hull win in revenge for their their defeat at the same venue a year earlier and was so confident that I said I would refund their ticket money if Hull lost.

Thankfully they enjoyed the game so much they did not want their money back.

Winner today? Wakefield of course!

This game is all about the forwards. Without our first choice halves we have even less cutting edge than usual so the forwards need to be really dominant.
If they are I can see it turning out like the Magic game. If they have one of their off days or just don't have much left in the tank from Friday then we'll struggle imo.

Losing tonight doesn't mean we can't make the 8 but winning tonight would make it likely. Lose and we need to win 3 of our 4 remaining games which is probably a tough ask with wigan and cas at home in there plus a trip to fortress preston road. Win and we should go into Sunday's match with a lot of confidence and hopefully a win leaving us really only needing 2 more points from 6 to be certain of a top 8 finish.

Key tonight will be to defend well. Whilst they have some capable players, wakefield's attack is probably the only one in SL worse than ours so if we can keep up the defensive effort then I expect us to win a tight game probably by 10-12 points

It's going to be steaming tonight, in more ways than one.

The temperature could be 8°C higher in Wakefield this evening, compared to the Hull forecast.

For mine..

What manner of attack we produce. ie. we continue to play the offload game,which served us well ,prior to the defeats v Catalan & Leeds.

IF we revert back to the 'barge barge' style,with no offloads we will struggle tonight.

However, if we play with no fear in attack, we will win -IMO.

Controlling possession will be the key to us winning tonight. Tiredness will creep in early due to the short turn around and so interchanges will need to be spot on.

If we can keep hold of the ball, we should win.

Shaul; Naughton, Talanoa, Yeaman, Michaels; Abdull, Rankin; Watts, Houghton, Paea; Sa, Ellis; Westerman.
Bowden, Green, Hadley, Thompson.

Found logging on online a faff! Ipad was having none of it, dug the laptop out and it needed to install loads of updates and 'silverlight' then it doesn't work with Chrome, so Internet Explorer it is for the first time in about 10 years. Come on Hull this better be worth it!

No Tim Smith for them

with arundell and miller in for them we're sure of a win

Great start, just what we needed to do

Good start, we needed early points.

Great start to this game.

They've given themselves a lead, now lets just play sensible possession rugby. No need to push the risky ball.

A lot of dropsies so far in the this game from both teams.

Far too easy so far. We should be looking for not only two wins from two, but a net points difference gain of 40-50 points from the two matches in my opinion.

too many mistakes creeping in ....

Can't help but feel we should have scored more points given our dominance.

What a shocking try to concede.

Can't watch it. Have we gone down the pan since our interchange props came on by any chance?

A string of errors, some awful defence, and Wakey are back in the game.

Starting to look fatigued now.