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| Quote ="Standee"Pearson hasn't stated the purpose of the tribunal, the fact the RFL are holding one indicates there is at least something to look at, time will tell.'"
Exactly. He hasnt made any kind of accusation of wrongdoing. He seems very clear on the blame for it being allowed to happen lies with the incompetence (whether wilfull or not) of the previous board.
This isnt the process for an approach prior to the deadline, it seems there is another accusation he is making but i cant see where the blame for that would lie with Leeds.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Exactly. He hasnt made any kind of accusation of wrongdoing. He seems very clear on the blame for it being allowed to happen lies with the incompetence (whether wilfull or not) of the previous board.
This isnt the process for an approach prior to the deadline, it seems there is another accusation he is making but i cant see where the blame for that would lie with Leeds.'"
I think, personally, that he is heading down the "conflict of interests" route, but we shall see, eventually.
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| Thought all along insider trading as it is a company that Adam just bought !
Then stabed in back by same people in more ways than one.
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| Quote ="Standee"not really, when you've been around a bit longer you'll realise that I don't really give a monkey's what most other fans think, let alone a sad case from L**ds who probably only started going once you finally started winning stuff, as the sone goes "where were you when you were #@it?"
but keep trolling, it gives me something to read whilst listening to the William Hill podcast.'"
Trolling?? Hardly.
You'd be wrong on all counts Im afraid, lifelong leeds fan here,
There when messyrs Caddick & Hetherington saved us from the depths and brought us to where we are now
However, were all anonymous amongst these boards unfortunately so guess youll just have to take my word for it
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"icon_lol.gif Trolling?? Hardly.
You'd be wrong on all counts Im afraid, lifelong leeds fan here,
There when messyrs Caddick & Hetherington saved us from the depths and brought us to where we are now
However, were all anonymous amongst these boards unfortunately so guess youll just have to take my word for it
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I've tried asking the question on your board but no luck with any replies yet, just general slating of our club and fans. So, let's be a bit grown up about it, and have your response, without emoticons and posturing if you can manage:
If there is no evidence of anything untoward, and the signing of Briscoe by Leeds was a simple approach made at the appropriate time without conflict of interest, why are the RFL wasting their time on a tribunal?
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| Quote ="Standee"I think, personally, that he is heading down the "conflict of interests" route, but we shall see, eventually.'" Did Kath have an interest in Hull FC when Briscoe signed?
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| Quote ="oud3pstander"Thought all along insider trading as it is a company that Adam just bought !
Then stabed in back by same people in more ways than one.'"
Insider trading is something completely different and not something the RFL (of all people) would investigate.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Insider trading is something completely different and not something the RFL (of all people) would investigate.'"
So, seriously, why have the RFL sanctioned a tribunal if no evidence of a transgression has been brought to their attention?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I've tried asking the question on your board but no luck with any replies yet, just general slating of our club and fans. So, let's be a bit grown up about it, and have your response, without emoticons and posturing if you can manage:
If there is no evidence of anything untoward, and the signing of Briscoe by Leeds was a simple approach made at the appropriate time without conflict of interest, why are the RFL wasting their time on a tribunal?'"
The only person who has mentioned tribunal is Pearson, the RFL havent released anything!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Did Kath have an interest in Hull FC when Briscoe signed?'"
I have no idea of the timings of various events, nor who was in what position to make decisions etc.
As has been said, no smoke, no fire.
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"The only person who has mentioned tribunal is Pearson, the RFL havent released anything!'"
So you are saying Pearson is lying about it in his programme notes to the supporters, making it up on a whim and hoping no one notices when it's exposed as a fabrication? Wow.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So, seriously, why have the RFL sanctioned a tribunal if no evidence of a transgression has been brought to their attention?'"
As I have said, Mr Pearson seems very clear (and probably sensibly knowing Sir Gary's litigious nature ) that his complaint is with the previous administration and not with Leeds, he has singularly avoided levelling any type of explicit or implicit accusation of wrongdoing at Leeds and seems to be explicitly accusing the former administration and implicitly absolving Leeds of blame. I think his complaint is less at the behavior of Leeds and more at the valuation of Briscoe through the standard youth valuation system with the added benefit of a chance to publicly claim vengeance on the previous administration.
I think the Tribunal will be setting a valuation on Briscoe, not judging on any disciplinary charges at Leeds because none have been levelled.
We would know what charges Leeds were accused of if the tribunal would be judging them
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So you are saying Pearson is lying about it in his programme notes to the supporters, making it up on a whim and hoping no one notices when it's exposed as a fabrication? Wow.'"
Pearson isn't a respected individual worth 5 times more than Garr... hang on, HE IS.
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| Quote ="Standee"I have no idea of the timings of various events, nor who was in what position to make decisions etc.
As has been said, no smoke, no fire.'"
22nd july Pearson publicly announced his take over. 1st of Sept is the tapping up deadline, 22nd sept is date Briscoes signing was publicly announced.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"22nd july Pearson publicly announced his take over. 1st of Sept is the tapping up deadline, 22nd sept is date Briscoes signing was publicly announced.'"
as I said, we'll see, Pearson isn't a mug.
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| Quote ="Standee"as I said, we'll see, Pearson isn't a mug.'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So you are saying Pearson is lying about it in his programme notes to the supporters, making it up on a whim and hoping no one notices when it's exposed as a fabrication? Wow.'"
Wow, stranger things have happened.
Have the RFL said theyre investigating anything?? Errmm, No.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"As I have said, Mr Pearson seems very clear (and probably sensibly knowing Sir Gary's litigious nature
) that his complaint is with the previous administration and not with Leeds, he has singularly avoided levelling any type of explicit or implicit accusation of wrongdoing at Leeds and seems to be explicitly accusing the former administration and implicitly absolving Leeds of blame. I think his complaint is less at the behavior of Leeds and more at the valuation of Briscoe through the standard youth valuation system with the added benefit of a chance to publicly claim vengeance on the previous administration.
I think the Tribunal will be setting a valuation on Briscoe, not judging on any disciplinary charges at Leeds because none have been levelled.
We would know what charges Leeds were accused of if the tribunal would be judging them'"
Thank you, Smokey TA. I've long been a fan of your unrivalled stamina in HKA overseas player numbers debates.
So we can expect no reference to the involvement of Gary Hetherington at all in this, I think is what you're saying. Could well be right, I've no idea other than the well-trodden rumours of certain interested parties' visits to Briscoe's house, inappropriately timed texts and phone record evidence. Can't see there's much cash to be made out of all this tbh. Hopefully more about a message that in the future there'll be plenty of scrutiny should approaches be made to our players.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Ask Bradford how much of a mug Gary and Paul Caddick are'"
Exactly, Leeds isnt run by a bunch of tin pot fly by nights!
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time will tell
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"Wow, stranger things have happened.
Have the RFL said theyre investigating anything?? Errmm, No.'"
That's fine - call Pearson a liar. I wouldn't personally, but it's your choice.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Thank you, Smokey TA. I've long been a fan of your unrivalled stamina in HKA overseas player numbers debates.
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Im pretty sure im a Leeds fan. I like alot of what Hull FC have done over the passed few years, even if they didnt live up to their potential. But im a Leeds fan.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Im pretty sure im a Leeds fan. I like alot of what Hull FC have done over the passed few years, even if they didnt live up to their potential. But im a Leeds fan.'"
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