He's not even signed for the club yet.

I'm hoping this is rubbish. How can a club justify signing a 31 year old overseas player on a three year deal that has never been anywhere near international honours?

In the day and age of franchising, I'd rather we just played a kid there than a never-has-been Aussie for three years.

What a waste if true.

I don't think his age is too big a problem. If you look at other fullbacks in SL who are in their 30's, they might not be the quickest but they still bring alot to the side. Hodgson & patten for instance.

The worrying thing is his knee reconstruction, subsequent release by the Warriors 18 months early, and he's missed a fair share of games at Wests since he signed.

He's not the player we should be going for, especially on a three year deal.

For those who watch the U20's, do we have anyone who could make the step up? I've read on here that Lyne has been playing FB, Jack Briscoe?

He's played well for the Tigers this season but would have preferred Bowen .

tend to agree with you on that one....the fact is, when fit, mckinnon is a top player..but again were all doubting wether he will make the pitch on a regular basis......
could turn out to be a good siging or an awful one....

Quote ="withernsea zebra"Here you are Karen. www.zimbio.com/pictures/NKz1u_Es ... e+Mckinnon You lot will soon have him in red kegs if he pitches up over here. '" Budgie smugglers , not a good advert. Will reserve judgement as I don't know enough about the player, only thing I can say with a name like Wade Mckinnon he sounds like a character out of Bonanza

Quote ="withernsea zebra"Here you are Karen. www.zimbio.com/pictures/NKz1u_Es ... e+Mckinnon You lot will soon have him in red kegs if he pitches up over here. '" Budgie smugglers , not a good advert. Will reserve judgement as I don't know enough about the player, only thing I can say with a name like Wade Mckinnon he sounds like a character out of Bonanza

Wade McKinnnon sounds like a cowboy from Young Guns or something... if he can bring more than Phelps then it could be a good signing.

I like what i read about the Ellis deal. Renewing Longs contract on a player/coach role could be a good move. Originally i didn't want to keep Long but signing a promising youngster to 'complement' the deal will pay dividends in the long run

Wests are on Premier sports Sunday morning for those who haven't seen McKinnon play.

Quote ="Mrs Barista"The HDM signing report is that Ellis has agreed terms.'" Sorry to impinge guys and ladies not trolling just a heads up on Jamie Ellis for those that dont know him, I video Leigh and put their games onto Blip.tv here is our latest one, have an early look at Jamie, you have got a 'good un'. blip.tv/fred-parkinson/leigh-cen ... ks-5193471 We'll have him back in 2014 please when we get into SL again

Quote ="Mrs Barista"The HDM signing report is that Ellis has agreed terms.'" Sorry to impinge guys and ladies not trolling just a heads up on Jamie Ellis for those that dont know him, I video Leigh and put their games onto Blip.tv here is our latest one, have an early look at Jamie, you have got a 'good un'. blip.tv/fred-parkinson/leigh-cen ... ks-5193471 We'll have him back in 2014 please when we get into SL again

Looks a very good prospect, get hi
Under webbo,long, and obst's wings and we could have a very good young prospect..! I can see us looking 2 the future however it still doesn't sort out next years 6-7.

Quote ="FredParky"Sorry to impinge guys and ladies not trolling just a heads up on Jamie Ellis for those that dont know him, I video Leigh and put their games onto Blip.tv here is our latest one, have an early look at Jamie, you have got a 'good un'. blip.tv/fred-parkinson/leigh-cen ... ks-5193471 We'll have him back in 2014 please when we get into SL again '" As someone who watches him regularly, what are his strengths?

Quote ="FredParky"Sorry to impinge guys and ladies not trolling just a heads up on Jamie Ellis for those that dont know him, I video Leigh and put their games onto Blip.tv here is our latest one, have an early look at Jamie, you have got a 'good un'. blip.tv/fred-parkinson/leigh-cen ... ks-5193471 We'll have him back in 2014 please when we get into SL again '" As someone who watches him regularly, what are his strengths?

blip.tv/fred-parkinson/leigh-cen ... ks-5193471 Go to 13mins30secs on the blip video above...good pace, good step, good pass...GOOD signing!

blip.tv/fred-parkinson/leigh-cen ... ks-5193471 Go to 13mins30secs on the blip video above...good pace, good step, good pass...GOOD signing!

Whats he like in the kicking department bud.

He dummys over for a try a few minutes after that too!

Only got as far as 16minutes in mate, but he's put a few kicks in and looks at ease with the ball in hand. As the commentator says...'he's running the show!'

Quote ="FredParky"Sorry to impinge guys and ladies not trolling just a heads up on Jamie Ellis for those that dont know him, I video Leigh and put their games onto Blip.tv here is our latest one, have an early look at Jamie, you have got a 'good un'. blip.tv/fred-parkinson/leigh-cen ... ks-5193471 We'll have him back in 2014 please when we get into SL again '" Thanks Parky. Derek's a bit harsh on the referee - thought he let the game flow well. Could be Leigh coloured specs perhaps? I thought Ellis showed some good touches (e.g. setting up the second try) and took his two tries well.

Quote ="FredParky"Sorry to impinge guys and ladies not trolling just a heads up on Jamie Ellis for those that dont know him, I video Leigh and put their games onto Blip.tv here is our latest one, have an early look at Jamie, you have got a 'good un'. blip.tv/fred-parkinson/leigh-cen ... ks-5193471 We'll have him back in 2014 please when we get into SL again '" Thanks Parky. Derek's a bit harsh on the referee - thought he let the game flow well. Could be Leigh coloured specs perhaps? I thought Ellis showed some good touches (e.g. setting up the second try) and took his two tries well.

I saw a fair bit of Ellis playing for St Helens Academy when I worked over there, and welcome his signing.

He was never in the same class as Eastmond, Lomax or Gaskell, but showed enough to suggest he could certainly 'do a job' in Super League.

Will provide solid back-up for Hull FC and has some improvement in him.

McKinnon, I am afraid, is a shocking signing!

Great player before his knee reconstruction three or four years ago, but all his pace has gone and now, given his hamstring problems, he has been released early by his last two clubs.

Echoes of Todd Byrne here. I am just hoping it isn't on the mooted three-year deal!

I can only summise that Jack Briscoe isn't going to make it. Was thought better than his brother at the same age a couple of years ago. Would be happy to hear from folk who watch him in the A-team though. Regarding Phelps - he's average isn't he, whos other SL team would he get into at FB - being honest? Forget the top 5, wouldnt oust Mathers either, Patten is class at salford..........Not having a go, a good pro but nothing special.

Jack Briscoes only 18/19 isn't he?

We might be looking to give him the FB shirt when our next one retires.

Not even signed yet

Yeah James Smailes said this earlier on twitter
I'm hearing nationals maybe jumped the gun a little with Wade McKinnon signing for #hullfc I'm told not a done deal......yet

Good news about Ellis but I would rather it had been kept under wraps until he'd signed. I can see someone coming in and pinching him from under our noses.

As for MacKinnon I'm very unsure about him. Is he any better than Phelps who hasn't really had chance yet to show that he's worth a new deal?

Let's face it, we're getting Gallen

Andrew Ryan in talks

I don't want to believe you!

Please not !