It's not like they would of won the tournament any how. Every other team is just to make the numbers up for Australia, and to fight for a place in the final just to get beat by the Aussies.

Just fly em home, leave the joke of a coach behind, move on and start playing PNG in test series until we get some passion back.

I don't im jealous as fook

id rather be there watching that e than stuck here though

Hardly, when were carrying players like Sykes, Westwood, Higham and Langley. Even players like Sinfield, Wellens and Senior arn't International class and are only in the team because there is no one else upto a good enough standard. Although Calderwood has played fairly well. England has only one world class winger, and that is Raynor.

Stick BBC1 on, you'll see what GB is known for, living in the past!!!!

We were gash from 30mins onwards. What the fook does Smith tell his players at half time?

hmmm

"she'll be reet"

Id if PNG win by 3 tommorow and knock us out

total w**k, can't understand how Sinfield gets anywhere near the team.

I hope they do and the useless feckers fly home.

Me neither, he offers nothing.

And we will still have the pundit's saying we are not far off.Our player's are overpaid and club's are daft enough to pay them too much.The Aussie's can't believe some of the wage's we pay and who can say they are wrong with this showing.Our game want's a root and branch re-structuring and changes to our set up have to be implemented or we either forget about international match's or carry on with over paid players still thinking they are world beater's.At least i can remember when we used to beat the Aussie's(with player's who mostly had very physical job's),how many of today's young fan's will ever see the same.

Carn't believe we beat this team 3 -0 in tests last year ,Now we'd be lucky to win 1 test.

"Respect"

Think thats harsh on Higham as thought he was our best today and its no coincidence that once he got took off we started loosing the ruck due to Sinfield and Burrow taking it in turns as dummy half.

A years a long time and both teams have made alot of changes, Imo we lost it when Smith made about 5-6 changes when Wellens got injured.

I agree with Higham .He played well and gave the Kiwi forwards a hell of a time in the middle of the park.

In International rugby ,No team should get beat by the scoreline we did after been in control for most of the first half.

i would,nt let sinfield near an england shirt again,daft penalty,s and stupid options cost us dearly.

Would agree with that. It is also no coincidence that the Kiwis played their better rugby when Lulu went off.

Come on PNG!

I can't believe how arrogant Sky and Tony Smith are being. The game next week has already been advertised as NZ v England. Even the BBC are saying we "meet again next week". OK it will probably happen but they're discussing it as if it is already agreed and set up. Tony Smith says he'll look at the tape of the match tomorrow, but he might be packing his bags for the journey home and watching the semi final from England next Saturday. Monday morning's video might be the inflight movie.

We were [ushockingly[/u poor in the second half (although the Warrington players did OK eh, Mr Cullen?). I can't honestly see any of the missing players (if we go through) improving us. Sliding defence was awful and contributed to the massive overlap for Vatuvei. My mum might have scored those tries. And moving Burrow etc round was tactically stupid. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Despite the appauling showing so far if we win next week then we are in the final.

I would not put it past us to beat them next week.

Gleeson at 6 was an awful decision.

My team:-

Wellens
Calderwood
Senior
Gleeson
Smith
Pryce
Burrow
Graham
Roby
Morley
Peacock
JJB
Ellis

Higham
Hock
Purdham
Sinfield

yet more of our so called super league superstars being found out again today

give burrow the captains armband for the last match next week, at least hes got guts and the kid can talk, hes the only voice i heard out there today.

Yet we still led 24 - 8! Who would you take then? The team from yesteryear that was arguably no better? Smith took a gamble by not taking players based on their reputation, but took players who had never played for England before. If it had payed off, everyone would have been singing his praises. It hasn't so far, so people start shooting down the Coach. We in England are so far behind in development standards compared to the NRL, but slowly, we are starting to see a difference. The new rules introduced by the RFL re: the number of 'homegrown' players that have to be in the 20/18/17 each game will also make a difference to the future of International standards within England, and other countries as well.

Yeah it will make them lower.