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| Quote ="bonaire"There is still no real reward for finishing top of Super League apart from a semi final play off place.
Surely at least give a grand final place to the League winners.'"
To be fair that could work the other way, if the league leaders got a by to final then they may be cold for the final when their opponent have had a tough playoff game to get them in the mood. Saints for example could have the league leaders shield wrapped up tonight, then not face a competitive game for a month.
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| Quote ="bonaire"There is still no real reward for finishing top of Super League apart from a semi final play off place.
Surely at least give a grand final place to the League winners.'"
Your speaking from a fans point of view, pretty sure the players think winning the league leaders shield is a reward
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| Quote ="Ellam"Why Karen? Footy play offs?'"
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Your speaking from a fans point of view, pretty sure the players think winning the league leaders shield is a reward'"
No i am thinking from a clubs point of view.
There should be more financial gain and if a major increase in money is not available then the league Champions should automatically be rewarded with a place in the Grand Final.
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| Home clubs profits are helped massively by away support,would you prefer 400 or more from bradford,feath,halifax,leigh,or 6 from catalans,and toronto ?
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| Quote ="des lawson"Home clubs profits are helped massively by away support,would you prefer 400 or more from bradford,feath,halifax,leigh,or 6 from catalans,and toronto ?'"
I'd rather we get 6 from Toronto. The focus should be on the home side attracting 400 more home fans, and Toronto getting 8k to 10k for their home games compared to Halifax and feath getting 2k
Sides shouldn't rely on away support, it can be sporadic and can fluctuate. Focus on attracting and retaining home support
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I'd rather we get 6 from Toronto. The focus should be on the home side attracting 400 more home fans, and Toronto getting 8k to 10k for their home games compared to Halifax and feath getting 2k
Sides shouldn't rely on away support, it can be sporadic and can fluctuate. Focus on attracting and retaining home support'" Toronto averaged 3.5k paying customers in 2017.
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| So after all this Super League got together and voted to go back to the same old boring crap system it used to have. All teams will play an extra six stupid games, the teams towards the bottom will still be moaning for half the season they cant plan, the teams who finish in the top five will play the same old unfathomable play off system - what an utter joke!
Should of gone to 14 teams, play home and away once. Old Premiership style top eight for the GF. Simple and easy
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| Quote ="ccs"Toronto averaged 3.5k paying customers in 2017.'"
Away support ?
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I'd rather we get 6 from Toronto. The focus should be on the home side attracting 400 more home fans, and Toronto getting 8k to 10k for their home games compared to Halifax and feath getting 2k
Sides shouldn't rely on away support, it can be sporadic and can fluctuate. Focus on attracting and retaining home support'"
The 6 from toronto wouldnt pay the tea lady.
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| Quote ="des lawson"The 6 from toronto wouldnt pay the tea lady.
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Teams shouldn't rely on away support. Generate a higher home support through marketing and an exciting product
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| totally ludicrous, Toronto ,Catalan,toulouse and ive heard talk of new York being touted as the next overseas club in super league.as daft as it sounds in a few years time ,we could have a 12 team uk super league with no british clubs in it.the French clubs should really be part of a strong French league.no wonder people who actally go through the turnstiles is declining each year.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Teams shouldn't rely on away support. Generate a higher home support through marketing and an exciting product'"
Well your last 9 games will really pack the kc for next season,exciting product,you should be running on to send in the clowns.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"totally ludicrous, Toronto ,Catalan,toulouse and ive heard talk of new York being touted as the next overseas club in super league.as daft as it sounds in a few years time ,we could have a 12 team uk super league with no british clubs in it.the French clubs should really be part of a strong French league.no wonder people who actally go through the turnstiles is declining each year.'"
Got to try something different, clubs like Salford and Widnes are plodding along with low crowds despite new grounds and in Salfords case some big name signings a few years ago. Wakefield have been promising a new ground for years but never deliver one, Huddersfield rely soly on a rich backer about half the league aren't performing off the field.
Also barely any teams bring any away support to the KCOM anyway, I don't see a lot of difference between Toronto bringing a car full and Salford bringing a car full.
I think Toronto will go up, but we need to see how it goes for a few years before we add more international teams.
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| Quote ="des lawson"Well your last 9 games will really pack the kc for next season,exciting product,you should be running on to send in the clowns.
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=#FF0000What are you actually here for? If it's to provide a sensible debate then you are welcome to stay, however if you are simply here to extract the urine constantly then you will be removed.
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| Quote ="Karen"=#FF0000What are you actually here for? If it's to provide a sensible debate then you are welcome to stay, however if you are simply here to extract the urine constantly then you will be removed. '"
I made a valid point about toronto toulouse etc bringing no support,iam sure you know away support all goes into the clubs coffers,CCS commented they averaged 3,500 at home,what has got that to do with the point i made.We all know they bring nothing,fosdyke agreed 100% so somebody thinks like me and with all due respect wilde 3 made a point that we all know,but the product from hull the last 9 weeks will not encourage next seasons season passes increasing.
Did you think wilde3 s post made sense that he would rather have 6 from toronto, than 400 from halifax featherstone etc.Thats a shocker.
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| Quote ="des lawson"I made a valid point about toronto toulouse etc bringing no support,iam sure you know away support all goes into the clubs coffers,CCS commented they averaged 3,500 at home,what has got that to do with the point i made.We all know they bring nothing,fosdyke agreed 100% so somebody thinks like me and with all due respect wilde 3 made a point that we all know,but the product from hull the last 9 weeks will not encourage next seasons season passes increasing.
Did you think wilde3 s post made sense that he would rather have 6 from toronto, than 400 from halifax featherstone etc.Thats a shocker.'"
We would never get 400 from teams like Halifax and Featherstone anyway, so your point is flawed and not really worth discussing. Only 3/4 sides have brought that figure or more this year - HKR, Cas, Wakey and maybe Saints. Sides need to focus on the controllables, their home support. If Toronto get into SL then they will most likely bring a TV deal with them, which increases the revenue in SL - if this filters down to each side to increase the salary cap, and keep the better players in the league, then the product get's better. Stop looking at away support and look at the bigger picture
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| last thing we need is another overseas team in sl with a tv deal.its bad enough with cats having their own tv deal and playing every home game on a Saturday,when every other sl club,get saddled with Thursday night matches.if we are not careful,sl will be a tv sport only.no one will actually go through the turnstiles.
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| Quote ="des lawson"I made a valid point about toronto toulouse etc bringing no support,iam sure you know away support all goes into the clubs coffers,CCS commented they averaged 3,500 at home,what has got that to do with the point i made.We all know they bring nothing,fosdyke agreed 100% so somebody thinks like me and with all due respect wilde 3 made a point that we all know,but the product from hull the last 9 weeks will not encourage next seasons season passes increasing.
Did you think wilde3 s post made sense that he would rather have 6 from toronto, than 400 from halifax featherstone etc.Thats a shocker.'"
Your above post is a reasoned argument and more than welcome. The snidey comments aren't.
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| Quote ="Karen"Your above post is a reasoned argument and more than welcome. The snidey comments aren't.'" you cannot expect to have it both ways after some of the shockers on the opposite board after various events, its a bit of banter
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| Quote ="Karen"Your above post is a reasoned argument and more than welcome. The snidey comments aren't.'"
Have look at the rovers board,and the snide comments from jake the peg and then tell me his comments aren't snide.Strangely since hull have had some bad results hes convieniently
disappeared to which we are all very happy and rolled back under his stone.I have several discussions with dave k who is a quality poster.
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| Quote ="des lawson"Have look at the rovers board,and the snide comments from jake the peg and then tell me his comments aren't snide.Strangely since hull have had some bad results hes convieniently
disappeared to which we are all very happy and rolled back under his stone.I have several discussions with dave k who is a quality poster.'"
Yes and after our bad run of results you appear.
Where were you in 2016/17 ?
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Yes and after our bad run of results you appear.
Where were you in 2016/17 ?'"
We have bad results all season,I have made over 2000 posts but lost my login when i changed commis so had to start again from scratch.
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| Quote ="des lawson"Have look at the rovers board,and the snide comments from jake the peg and then tell me his comments aren't snide.Strangely since hull have had some bad results hes convieniently
disappeared to which we are all very happy and rolled back under his stone.I have several discussions with dave k who is a quality poster.'"
I'm not a moderator on your board and never go on it, however it's very noticeable how many KR fans are suddenly appearing on here now that we are going through a rough patch. KR mods may allow the FC fans goading but we don't here. As I say, feel free to join in any discussions in a sensible manner but if you're only here to take the mick and wind other fans up then you are not welcome. It really is that simple.
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| Quote ="rover 2000"you cannot expect to have it both ways after some of the shockers on the opposite board after various events, its a bit of banter'"
I don't mod your board, I mod this one. If KR mods allow our lot to troll your board then that's their business.
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