They havnt anounced the number of pass sales as they will be well down on last season. And that is no suprise really,

I actually think this type of thinking has got us with the unbalance squad we have today.

I agree with that

No I'm not slagging Westerman either, just think it was a really odd signing in terms of where our priorities were.

Fair point about the board giving us a future and we will always be grateful for that, just think there has to come a time when we stop basing decisions on what they've done for us in the past. If Agar is there mainly for financial reasons then as Isiah just said it's a massive false economy.

I agree completely, I just think sorting out a decent coach for the next few years should take priority over sorting out a decent loose forward.

Even I thought that was funny.



I just cannot imagine that kosh is on the payroll

I agree and if I was in chrge then a better coach would be my first priority.

But my point is I don't think it's this boards.
So boycotting the matches will effect the playing squad.

Were did I say our board do not have good business sense?

In business you often have to speculate to accumulate. For me if we brought a top coach in and paid them £200K a year it wouldn't matter as long as they were doing the job well and bringing success on the field. If they do, then it is money well spent as the income generated by success on the pitch such as increases in attendances, sponsorship, club merchandising etc would out weigh the initial outlay.

For me Agar being head coach is damaging to the club regardless how much he is getting paid (even if he was doing it for free) the issue for me is the longer he stays in the job the more damage is done and the longer it takes to get back on track.

Quality coaches are worth the money, substandard coaches are not.

A board with any good business sense would." which implied that because you think that the board are cheapos because they employ agar and not an expensive coach

Haven't some posters, allegedly more privvy to info than me, claimed Rule doesn't think the coach is that important?

If so why would the board believe spending more cash on a coach be 'spending to accumulate'?

You really are damp in the loft aren't you.

no just quoting your garbage

True, although you could argue that if the board isn't doing all it safely can to allow us to compete for trophies then what does it matter if the playing squad declines a bit further? It's not as if we need to worry about having to stay in the division.

Re what James Rule said about not needing a good coach, I've heard it from too many different people for it not to be true, he's pretty open about it from what I gather. It's part of the reason I think he's another one that's been promoted one step above his natural position, obviously a good marketer and decent businessman but he's got far less idea about RL than the average fan.

I don't know what a ceo's role is inside a rl club tbh, they certainly shouldn't be in charge of recruitment.

I'd imagine the appointment of the coach is the board?

Of course we will get more than 10000 Watson!! Its elementary


However I was replying to a thread regarding a mentioned boycott,and merely stating that with 9000 passholders regularly attending, and high attendance games such as Quins,Crusaders,Wakey, Catalans etc to come,all teams who bring no support,It will probably be The Home Derby that will boost our avarage up significantly,Not walk up FC fans from the other fixtures.
Also you state it won't last all year,Why won't it? Agar is contracted and the board have done nothing but back him,If and it is a Big If, the season shudders along as is do you not think people not buying season passes will force the Board to try and Attract supporters, instead of us queing up to give them our money.

They will be down on last season whatever they sold well over 100 last year after the season had started.

what is interesting is the fact that perhaps some season ticket holders won't be going I know a couple who are not!

So do I Wilf, and if I be honest if it is raining at the next home game I may not go and I am a season pass holder.

If there had been a season pass refund window at the KC on Friday night there would have been a long long queue there after the game and I'd have been in it!


Actually that's a quote from my mate Mel who said that as we were walking out.

So I am on the Payroll? Brilliant

same here my son was freezing last week,if its as cold as last week or raining im not going either

The exact same philosophy i use in business, speculate to accumulate.

Totally agree with what you are saying and ateotd, thats what the club should do. Players careers are suffering playing under an amateur coach. My love for the club dwindled years ago under this regime, my love for the team is a different matter but even i cannot bring myself to watch them at the moment whilst there is too much influence on the team coming from the club itself. The season pass will probably stay in the kitchen drawer until Agar goes but by then i may be in a position whereby i get used to not attending games anymore, that after 37 years of support.

Serious question & I hope someone tell me. What is 'cheap' with regard to the salary that a super league head coach is paid? I expect many will have different values. I have no idea what Richard Agar is earning but on many occasions people have inferred that he is/was the 'cheap' option & I have understood that to mean that the club/organisation have not paid him a big salary.

What nowadays can a good heach coach earn or be expected to earn & what can a middle of the road head coach expect to earn in super league? I have already stated that I have no idea but I would be interested to know.

I would appreciate an insight as to what others understand to be the 'going rate' for a head coach. Then I may be able form a clearer picture of those who manage the club.