Wow,here we go again…show me where I said Cator should be in the 17..I mentioned in a previous thread that if he didn’t improve then yes he can be moved on.i never said all our players are brilliant,your making stuff up to back you up but certain players do get a bagging on here big style.Unfortunately can’t say about Cators last game he played well as I on see FC on tv now as after 2016/17 Wembley I haven’t been to a match as other things in my life was far more important but it hasn’t stopped me supporting the club I love since 1975.

You should know as you got accused of it by a far better poster than me or you.

Stats aren’t all they are cracked up to be imo,may make me wrong but hey ho…wasn’t there a stat out not long ago that said French wasn’t one of the the fastest…so that’s wrong.

Not just Wigans Accountant but Wigans owner,who is loaded.To me,centre is as much a problem as 2nd row and hooker..take out our centres,who all have had injury issues…who comes in?.Mitch is injury prone,1has gone to dec so who is left and can they step up?

More important things in life, but you are here arguing with someone you have never met about Joe Cator for a team you have haven't watched live in 6 years.

I'm bagging players as I want us to improve, like many others on here I spend thousands each season on this club and I want us to be better, I think I'm well in the right to critise.

If you don't like my opinion or tone, there is a simple solution, put me on ignore.

I hope you can get to a few ganes next year and help the club progress.

So I can’t have an opinion if I don’t go to games?..I want the club to progress as well but have been held up by Radfords contract extensions,Hodgson,Covid and Pearson does take some blame but without him we would be gone.I don’t mind your opinion but you can belittle people,just a observation and if wrong I apologies

I never said you can't have an opinion.

The problem with written opinion, it doesn't come with any emotion, like face to face, saying that i do like to take the mick at tines, IMO, some posts deserve it, mainly a bit of fun, I've certainly never bullied anyone on here.

Anyway Merry Christmas everyone, even Keith who I can see him lurking here still, despite his ban.

yeh merry Christmas to you all have a great time and thanks for all the camaraderie fun etc over the last year I'm so pleased we keep this going and thanks to to the new mods regime for cleaning things up and getting us back on track its good fun on here again. .

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Hope you all have a good one folks! Fingers crossed i can still squeeze into my shirt after the festivities

Yep echo that Pete and wish every member a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year.

Despite us all not seeing eye to eye and agreeing all the time I’m sure we all share to same eternal hope that this coming season will see much needed improvement

Nu Brown is on the way

I saw Herman Ese'ese in Hull earlier. I can confirm that he's a big lad.

Yep. Saw him at the shop signing and he's not that much smaller than Pele.

Kane Evans hutch maiava and Wayne Mcdonald were "big lads"

Think ese ese will be a good player

Hope Pele isn't a flop

I've seen Jack Ashworth in town the last few days too. Was surprised how big he was.

Nu Brown doing a bit of training with his new team mates according to his IG. He seems a proper fitness freak.

Also Jack Walker looks massive. Looks to have really bulked up

Over a 10KG gain for Walker, which for his size/stature is pretty impressive. Had read that he’d been putting a lot of extra work in.

Have to say that all of the players look in good shape.

Wayne Mcdonald was very good for us.

You still in panto mode?…personally I didn’t think he was all that good and given his nickname “handbrake” says it all….i await now another poster saying “well the stats are”

Why are you always so angry?

McDonald did well for us in his short spell otherwise it's unlikely that the reigning SL Champions would have signed him from us.

Since you mentioned it the stats are that he scored ten tries in seventeen games for us. Not a world beater but he certainly doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside Maiava and Evans.

Tis the season to be jolly, la la lal lal la, la lal lal la.

Not angry at all and my quote about stats was proven right.He just didn’t seem to run his weight that’s all .As for the reigning s/l champions signing him,fair play but he wasn’t that standard imo

Just loves an argument, manages to disagree with everything I say, always agrees with Talentboy too, which makes me wonder too.

Agree on Mcdonald, decent player for us, we wanted to keep him, what props scores that many tries, went onto to play over 100 games for Saints, Leeds and Wigan. As you say we have has alot of worse players than him and shouldn't be held in the same company as those mentions, who were both awful.

Very good .....no chance

He was ok

Likes of Minichello and Kelly were very good wouldn't class Mcdonald near that category