So what are the wrong things??
Are we talking about the lack of invention in attack, the continuous five drives and a kick. The lack of dummy runners that sees the driving forward getting smashed by three players over and over, the lack of offloads or lack of any idea on the opposition line.
Or are we talking about the lack of discipline on defence, the lack of aggression and the pathetic line speed and lack of fitness that sees our team unable to compete for 80 minutes. No your right this has nothing to do with Redford, he pulls a rabbit out the hat every few games and all is well ffs

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

Mentioned earlier that our tries were individual efforts and Catalans were in the main well constructed.
The passing from the play the ball is consistently off the mark as well, resulting in losing vital split seconds.
We just seem to play ultra rigid until the wheels fall off, and then we revert to NFL style lateral plays in a mass panic to chase the game.

didn't Radford sometime in the past say he would walk if he couldn't get the team doing any better or words to that effect?

That was his get out of jail phrase which bought him some time
Clearly looks like he will never walk
Record losses would have seen any coach walk last season

The same old drivel, excuses and rhetoric coming out in the media too now from Scott Taylor [url=https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fc-scott-taylor-faith-3903820here[/url. Fed up of hearing how they are going really well in training every week, which must be bullshizzle or they'd be able to transfer it into match day by now. The fact he is stating like Radford they don't know why they perform so badly is a major concern.
Instead of telling us you are confident you'd be better stopping with the words and showing by your actions as so far you are no better than the last two seasons of crapness.

You could literally take this story and compare it to the self same crap that has been churned out in 2018 & 2019 and before. Same problems, attitude and coach just a different season and players but same end result.

When is the penny going to drop??

How are we not finishing bottom of the table every season with all that going on?

Because we have some X Factor players who can sometimes create a bit of magic. Or some big buggers who can barge over

Just as I thought. When we win, it's because we have good players. When we lose, it's because we have a poor coach.

I never made that statement?

I did, but I'll admit, I was being slightly sarcastic.

I think Mrs B is right. AP will have set out expenditure and revenue forecasts at the start of the season and will be loath to throw these into turmoil this early into the season.
I think there is an argument to be made that AP could have invested some of the cash he's put into the squad into a new coaching setup at the end of last season but he did recruit Purtill, which was one of the things many on this forum were calling for for some time.
As for challenging I don't think that's realistic under the AP regime. As Mrs B has said the turnover is too low and AP doesn't want to put the club at risk by over stretching.

As someone stated last week, what is Purtill actually doing? In the pre season behind the scenes footage, it is still Andy Last doing the attack drills.

We have one of the largest salaries in the competition yet play like a side at the bottom. 8 wins in our last 24 home games, numerous defeats of over 50 points, with the squad we have then what is being dished up is unacceptable. At what point is enough enough?
It’s not just the way we play it’s the interchanges, game in game out they are a joke.

giddyupoldfella, I admire your loyalty and your positivity towards Radford and the club, but I just can't agree with a word you say, sorry.

The one and only time we had all our top salary earners out on the pitch together this season, do you really believe we looked like a side at the bottom?

We may have one of the largest salaries in the competition (I don't know whether we have or not), but when a lot of it is sat in the stands, then it makes it tougher for us.

That's fine. I'm similar, I don't agree with most of what some posters say.

Think I have a similar mindset to you, and giddyupoldfella pretty much the opposite of every view I have.

He states when we had our strongest side out we played well (I assume he means against Leeds), and yes, we did. But squads win titles, not starting 13's.

Saints were missing key players and still play a style that any player can fit into - even if it is out of position (Bentley at centre for example)

Wigan were missing players too, but have squad players that play with intensity, desire and aggression which people like Matongo need to look at.

So let's talk about Saints missing players. Just 3 weeks ago they had some top players out and were nilled 19 nil, by an apparently very poor team that need to sack their coach.

How did Saints get on at relegated London last season, when they were without a few of their star men? They got beat.

And you give Wigan as an example. This time last year, Wigan were bottom of the table. Guess what their fans were saying? That's right, sack Lam.

Yet they won the league!Q They rotated their squad, and had injuries all season, and you have picked 1 game!! We have had this dross for 3 seasons!

Well that was premature by the Wigan fans wasn't it! A bit like us asking Pearson to sack Radford in 2013, in his first season like Lam was in. What we are doing now in effect is like the Wigan fans asking the board to sack Lam in 2026 after years of under performance.

You are really picking bad examples as comparisons. A better example would be Leeds. Massive success (definitely more so than back to back cup wins that we had), yet their performances and the coaches stubbornness to refresh his squad and change the style ultimately led to his sacking.

But Radford has refreshed, and when the likes of Satae, Savelio, Sao, Jones and Ma'u (his new look pack) have only played once together, then how can you really judge it? I suppose you can judge it off the one game they did play together.how did that one go?

We can judge it, because the style of play hasn't changed. Defensive structures still leave wingers exposed. Defensive structures mean we still give away far too many metres in defence as there is no line speed. We are still incapable of being a threat in the opposition 20 as the supply from DH is too slow, and not accurate enough. Sneyd doesn't engage the line. Shaul cannot time his run or learn how to put supply out to the centre and winger.

These are spine players that have remained consistent through Radford's tenure. Satae, Sao and Ma'u played yesterday and played very well - but we still lost due to the faults that we have had for years, these players cannot change that.

Here's a question for you taking out injuries/suspensions for the minute would honestly say that the performances over the last 4 games have been good enough and to a satisfactory standard?

The thing is with giddyupoldfella I've noticed is that he will always enjoy the victories as we all do but look for justification for our losses and poor performances.

It's almost if injuries and suspensions only effect Hull.

We are spending way over cap, have recruited some real quality but yet still churn out performances like yesterday.
It is just history repeating itself with the same old failings.
The playing personnel have changed several times in Radford's tenure but yet our playing style, fitness and mental fragility have not.
Time for a fresh start but unfortunately Radford seems to be made of Teflon. Always the players or fans at fault.