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| Quote ="DuaneDibbley"I don't think Adam Pearson is too worried about the future of RL. All he needs is enough time to get back into football and cut his losses[urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-owner-Adam-Pearson-linked-Leeds-United/story-20090107-detail/story.html[/url. Surprising after this statement [urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/mobile/sport/rugby-league/hull-fc/pearson-won-over-by-affinity-shown-in-league-1-5953593[/url'"
I like you, you will be easy to make a fool of, hopefully you will last a few weeks and we can have some fun with you.
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| Love the Rovers fans posting on here, have they just bought new laptops.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Yon could say it's luck. You could say it's good filtering of our squad by the coaching staff, strong development pathways, affording Crooks the right opportunities at a young age.
Props [ugenerally[/u develop later and Green's been given a starting squad number. Whether both will be first choice props remains to be seen but I reckon Green has a good shot at being a regular.
That's my point. If we're getting 1-2 players coming through a year, as now looks likely, why is that just" luck", rather than a reasonable return on a decent programme of selection and training delivered by the right people?'"
What about that Wigan lot - luckiest team in the league.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"What about that Wigan lot - luckiest team in the league.'"
Best infrastructure in the game, why would it be lucky for them?
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| Quote ="*1865*"Best infrastructure in the game, why would it be lucky for them?'"
It's called irony!
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| Quote ="*1865*"Best infrastructure in the game, why would it be lucky for them?'"
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I bet none of their lads are on 70K either.'" Probably because they're not idiots then.
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| Quote ="davey37"It's called irony!'" Subtlety not a strong point then?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I bet none of their lads are on 70K either.'"
Lot of people jumping on this 70 k. Why do you think he signed so quick. If hull had made a poor/middling offer by time Wigan among others came calling with their offers he'd have probably been mulling ours over still and had his head turned. Green Bowden shaul on significant upgrades, not 70.
Danny Houghton is on tremendous money now after being massively underpaid until fairly recent. Want local kids still gonna have to pay! Then hope loyalty and local connection keeps them happy as well. Cos in Dannys case Salford where willing to pay big!!
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Lot of people jumping on this 70 k. Why do you think he signed so quick. If hull had made a poor/middling offer by time Wigan among others came calling with their offers he'd have probably been mulling ours over still and had his head turned. Green Bowden shaul on significant upgrades, not 70.
Danny Houghton is on tremendous money now after being massively underpaid until fairly recent. Want local kids still gonna have to pay! Then hope loyalty and local connection keeps them happy as well. Cos in Dannys case Salford where willing to pay big!!'"
I know. There's no sarcasm emoticon otherwise I would have used it.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Love the Rovers fans posting on here, have they just bought new laptops.
Maybe they knew of a spare one floating about'"
Been the operative word, how and where did you obtain yours I wonder,? even more surprisingly, how did you learn to operate it?.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Been the operative word, how and where did you obtain yours I wonder,? even more surprisingly, how did you learn to operate it?.'"
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I bet none of their lads are on 70K either.'"
Who's on £70k Tony?
Or is it Adam?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I bet none of their lads are on 70K either.'"
That's why Tomkins left. He was only on £30k
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| Let's face it, if anybody else had said we were lucky to get three juniors take to SL so well so quickly, nobody would have been bothered and more than likely agreed.
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| Even if Neil Hudgell stated that he thought Hull FC were a top 4 team.
People on here would still think he was having a dig.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Let's face it, if anybody else had said we were lucky to get three juniors take to SL so well so quickly, nobody would have been bothered and more than likely agreed.'"
Under Agar/Hetherington the lack of emerging young homegrown players (apart from Houghton) was attributed to systemic failures in our development systems. We get three players coming through, plus Green and arguably Bowden, plus [usix[/u players in the England Youth and England Academy teams in October, and we should accept that it's just "luck".
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| Quote ="*1865*"Let's face it, if anybody else had said we were lucky to get three juniors take to SL so well so quickly, nobody would have been bothered and more than likely agreed.'"
Speak for yourself, I'd have resented the way it was presented whoever it had come from. Especially within the context it was; immediately after identifying the development of youth as the way forward in RL, his own club promoting more youngsters next year and it being his coach's main brief, he labels our achievement of the exact aims he has as 'lucky'.
It would have been far better and more sensible to say something like 'Hull reaped the benefits of that last season' or similar. Even if he had commented on them exceeding expectation it would have been fair enough, but lucky is an exceedingly poor (or exceedingly good, depending on the intent) choice of word(s).
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Under Agar/Hetherington the lack of emerging young homegrown players (apart from Houghton) was attributed to systemic failures in our development systems. We get three players coming through, plus Green and arguably Bowden, plus [usix[/u players in the England Youth and England Academy teams in October, and we should accept that it's just "luck".'" Well, lets take the three plus Green and Bowden only, as the others have only come into the club on a full time basis since AP took over. Why is it not even a little lucky, that given the chronic under investment of our youth setup during the tenure of the people you mention, that we've got at least three top class SL players from it?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Speak for yourself, I'd have resented the way it was presented whoever it had come from. Especially within the context it was; immediately after identifying the development of youth as the way forward in RL, his own club promoting more youngsters next year and it being his coach's main brief, he labels our achievement of the exact aims he has as 'lucky'.
It would have been far better and more sensible to say something like 'Hull reaped the benefits of that last season' or similar. Even if he had commented on them exceeding expectation it would have been fair enough, but lucky is an exceedingly poor (or exceedingly good, depending on the intent) choice of word(s).'"
So you can hand on heart say that there is absolutely no element of luck involved when the club has thrown three kids in at the deep end and two of them make the SL dream team in their first full seasons? Just how often does this happen? Nobody can ever be sure how a young kid is going to react to the step up, there's only so much you can do to prepare them for it.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Well, lets take the three plus Green and Bowden only, as the others have only come into the club on a full time basis since AP took over. Why is it not even a little lucky, that given the chronic under investment of our youth setup during the tenure of the people you mention, that we've got [uat least three top class SL players [/ufrom it?'"
Top class Super League players earn way more than £70k a year.
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| Quote ="*1865*"So you can hand on heart say that there is absolutely no element of luck involved when the club has thrown three kids in at the deep end and two of them make the SL dream team in their first full seasons? Just how often does this happen? Nobody can ever be sure how a young kid is going to react to the step up, there's only so much you can do to prepare them for it.'"
Crooks breakthrough season was 2012 IMO - he played 13 SL games.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Crooks breakthrough season was 2012 IMO - he played 13 SL games.'" Who mentioned breakthrough? I said first FULL season.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Top class Super League players earn way more than £70k a year.'" Ah, well done.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Who mentioned breakthrough? I said first FULL season.'"
Shaul only played 7 games, so not his first FULL season. That leaves Crooks who'd already served a good half-season apprenticeship and Lineham, who'd played 5. 2 very good players coming through a year at 20-21 is what you'd hope for given improvements in development and increased emphasis on ensuring homegrown youth getting the right opportunities at first team level. Hardly outrageous fortune, but must be very satisfying for Last and co nonetheless.
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