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| This is a really good idea by your web site team, I very much enjoyed reading about the players.
I'm a Rovers fan, so I didn't vote, but I would have voted for Crane.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"As far as loose forwards go Norton and Whitely and I don't think anyone will argue with that. This vote is for the 3rd choice and I'm surprised that Casey even got a nomination - surely there have been better than him other than the 3 other nominees who were all clearly superior and contributed more as a Hull player. Casey played 5 years (not particularly long) in an undistinguished side and was hardly considered the star man. His fame as a player, that of a cheap shot merchant known for late hits on the opponents half backs, was earned with another team.
However if the dobbins were to do a hall of fame then Casey would be a walk in, chiefly for the harm he did to Hull with his disastrous coaching spell.
FWIW my choice would be Crane, a very good player and always entertaining - though I wouldn't have wanted to be his coach.'"
I started watching Hull FC about 30 years ago, so I never saw Casey play for Hull. Did you?
Because without doing so, how can you say he was "hardly considered the star man" or the others were "clearly superior and contributed more as a Hull player"?
He played for 5 years, in an era when Hull FC were nowhere near anything like any honours (I think we made it to the JP final in 1975).
Jason Smith is a in the list, he was only here for 4 years of which he played in only a fraction of the games. Peter Sterling is within the Hall of Fame for playing for less than 1 and a half seasons. I haven't looked but I would be astonished if Garry Schofield was not in contention.
Casey's spell as coach should have no bearing on him as a player in Black and White.
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| whoever nominated Casey should be put in front of a firing squad its Mick Crane all the way for me ,exceptional rugby league player ,that i had the honour of watching
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| I agree that Mick Crane should get the nomination (but then I would!!), but the votes have been hijacked and Casey is now in the lead.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"The farcical nomination of Casey may come back to embarras whoever did it.[u Desperately sad moron Easty is rallying his fellow deluded fools on the dobbins forum to vote for Casey[/u.'"
He is a pathetic excuse for a grown man, clearly bitter, obsessed and twisted.....what is even more disturbing he insinuated on the VR thread he is a Prison Officer, god forbid!..clearly a great role model for offenders on how to be a well balanced individual
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| IIRC he spent a while trying to "borrow" a banner from Gateshead to wave at a pre-season derby once.
Sad doesn't begin to cover it.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I started watching Hull FC about 30 years ago, so I never saw Casey play for Hull. Did you?
Because without doing so, how can you say he was "hardly considered the star man" or the others were "clearly superior and contributed more as a Hull player"?
He played for 5 years, in an era when Hull FC were nowhere near anything like any honours (I think we made it to the JP final in 1975).
Jason Smith is a in the list, he was only here for 4 years of which he played in only a fraction of the games. Peter Sterling is within the Hall of Fame for playing for less than 1 and a half seasons. I haven't looked but I would be astonished if Garry Schofield was not in contention.
Casey's spell as coach should have no bearing on him as a player in Black and White.'"
I'll admit I hardly saw Casey in a Hull shirt, they were poor years for the club, I saw more before he arrived (though the memories from my youth are a bit hazy now) and much more after. However the stats don't do Casey any favours.
I think we both agree that to be Hall of Fame worthy a player must have helped the team perform by making an above average contribution to it. This means playing at a higher level than your contempories for a sustained period of time.
Of the contenders in the vote Ellerington and Crane played much longer for the club than Casey. Not many people are around who saw Ellerington play but captaining trophy winning Hull teams and getting international honours suggest he was certainly no mug.
Crane I have seen plenty of and most Hull fans will agree that he was a fine player, both have substantially longer Hull careers than Casey, won trophies and international honours with the club and are unquestionably far more deserving cases.
Smith had a shorter and more injury blighted Hull career than Casey. However in terms of quality there is no contest - a player good enough to get in the best representative sides in the world compared one who gained no honours playing in the lower reaches of the Rugby League. The massive gap in ability and level of performance makes Smith a far superior choice to Casey.
To summarise, Casey played in poor Hull teams which won nothing with him there. He gained no representative honours with Hull and I certainly don't remember him as a stand out. There were other players over this period like Sullivan, Harrison, Hancock and Boxall who provided more.
So yes the other nominees were clearly superior to him.
What I was disturbed about is that there are other better players for Hull than Casey that weren't even nominated. Gary Divorty for one, Jon Sharp if you class him as a loose forward just out of the more recent players and I'm sure that going back you will find others.
Anyway thanks to the blunder of nominating him and the actions of truly pathetic individuals like Easty and Philb he may end up in the Hull Hall of Fame unless the voting process is cleaned up to remove those submitted by these retards and their ilk.
BTW Schofield is in the Hull HOF, despite everything he was a great player though so no arguments from me on that one.
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| to be fair to jason smith he played 72 times for hull - a decent return of almost 20 games a season
say what you want about jason smith but he was the last player to wear the 13 for us who could be considered a true loose forward in the traditional sense (with the exception of possibly cookey when he played there) - a ball handler and distributer with a great kicking game. nowadays a loose man is more of an extra prop in most cases. he did some great things on the pitch for us and i enjoyed watching that 2003 team more than any other for the last 20 years. the only thing missing was a trophy
having said that my vote goes to mick crane - he was at rovers when i started watching FC but remember the extra dimension he gave us when he signed. my fave moment of his was in the tour game against the aussies in 1982 when straight from the kick off he chipped the ball over their advancing line and regathered, and i repeat this was straight from the kick off! embarrassment of riches having him and knocker in the side at the same time
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| Quote ="the artist"having said that my vote goes to mick crane - he was at rovers when i started watching FC but remember the extra dimension he gave us when he signed. my fave moment of his was in the tour game against the aussies in 1982 when straight from the kick off he chipped the ball over their advancing line and regathered, and i repeat this was straight from the kick off! embarrassment of riches having him and knocker in the side at the same time'"
I have a dvd of that game - I hope to let the heritage day show that game during the day - Crane was all over the Aussies that night - the number of times he struck for the ball as it was played and won the ball back was incredible.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"IIRC he spent a while trying to "borrow" a banner from Gateshead to wave at a pre-season derby once.
Sad doesn't begin to cover it.'"
That's a new one on me. I'd happily admit to anything I've done. That one just simply isn't true!
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| Quote ="Easty"That's a new one on me. I'd happily admit to anything I've done. That one just simply isn't true!'"
Thats a shame,it would have been quite amusing.
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| Quote ="Easty"simply isn't true!'"
how do you remember one lie from another?
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| Quote ="Standee"how do you remember one lie from another?'"
Because I don't make any.
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| Quote ="Easty"Because I don't make any.'"
I can be daft, often stupid and moronic and often blinkered in my love for Hull Kingston Rovers. I can be rash and unthoughtful but I've never ever being a liar.
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| Quote ="Easty"That's a new one on me. I'd happily admit to anything I've done. That one just simply isn't true!'"
Have a look back on your unofficial board, was quite a while ago.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Have a look back on your unofficial board, was quite a while ago.'"
It's not something I would ever do. feel free to search yourself..
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| Can someone please post a link to the vote as I can't seem to find it anywhere?
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| Quote ="deluded pom?"Can someone please post a link to the vote as I can't seem to find it anywhere?'"
Gone off the site now.
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| Hopefully to be re-edited with Casey suffering a Stalinist purge.
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