I think you start the season with Whiting and if Crooks' form or injuries warrant it, give him a chance and see if he takes it.

Only issue with Crooks is asking an 18 year old to play in our troubled right centre spot is asking a lot.

Most people I've asked have said next season will be too soon.

IMO if he's so strongly fancied as a prospect he should be on a dual contract with a decent NL club next year. Ideally, he won't be used next season other than if his form demands it, and preferably that would be towards the end of the season after he's gained a bit more experience. All you can do is give him a few games and see how he does.

I've always said I'm not convinced by Turner as a first choice centre, but for next season he'd be decent backup for Whiting. If we can see a little of Crooks next year and he does ok though, we may be able to cut Turner loose at the end of his contract.

Eamon O'Caroll FFS, it's enough to make me have nightmares, would rather have Eamonn Holmes or Carol Vorderman, potential spelling mistakes and all. He would steamroller the opposition and she would keep check of the interchanges for our head coach.

Jeez this board is depressing

I think turner has improved a lot at centre since he's had a run there. I hope whiting will go into the back row where he should be playing IMO

Eamon O'Caroll that's gotta be a rumour made up by soemone taking the .

If agar is still here come the start of next season and we sign players like that it will show that AP's comments about top 4 and finals is a load of hot air.

But it should make the purchase of the KC easier with FC now on side.

O'Carroll has missed most of the last 2 years with an injury that a lot of doctors couldn't pinpoint I believe. However he had another surgery a few months ago which seems to have been successful and he's been back playing in the reserves the last couple of weeks.

He's a good player, and if this troublesome injury is behind him you'll have yourselves a decent cheap signing. I've not heard anything from this side though.

if we sign o'carroll...im done for 2012

You lot really are pathetic, "I'm not going if we sign O'Carroll", don't go then simple. You've all been saying that we need a few more forwards for next , we get linked to a young british forward & now you're not going if we sign him? If he signs give him chance FFS, he's a decent player and only 24 so hardly past his best is he?

Depends who else we sign, but adding o'carroll and expecting him to offer something we haven't had is unrealistic, plus his injury record makes sean long look like an ever present

Compare us to Warrington too. They where a cash rich club and needed a forward and a centre so they went and got possibly the best uncapped forward in SL in Carvell and an Oz international in Matt King. These are the quality we need to be aiming at if we want to get to the top.

Where did this O'Carroll rumour come from? There's nothing about it from the Wigan end.

I'm not having it until it is confirmed by ICECREAMMAN.

and we'll end up with Dowes, O'Carroll and some injury prone Aussie that we've never heard of.

















Not quite the same level of ambition there or am I missing something ?

people are feeding on scraps of (mis)information, I doubt very much will improve for next season, 2013 onwards will be when we see evidence of AP's ambition (if he is true to his word), if players are not available then they are not available, who in their right mind (that would improve FC) is going to leave Saints, Wigan, Warrington or Huddersfield to come to Hull?

Sell them the dream and future asp and they will come!

Sell them Agar, an ageing injury prone squad and no chance of silverware and you'll see no change from the last 3 seasons squads

Absolutely. We will still be paying for our poor recruitment and retention through 2012 and into 2013.

Depressing but if AP starts to act now, maybe we will see vast improvements within three seasons.

I'll support the team if agar is gone. If he's still here i won't but a pass. His recruitment has been patchy at best and his lack of development of young players has left us in a poor position which may take a number of years to turn around

Having a world class coach with loads of ambition might do the trick.

Nobles never had probelms getting the top players to come and play for him.

Noble's never left a club in a better financial state than when he arrived.

A bit of debt never hurt anyone. Given the choice would you rather have us 2 million in debt and Super League Champions or as we are?

Anyway ive got a feeling that come the end of the season we'll be getting a new coach then Pearson will show his intent and BUY a top class forward or centre to get bums on seats. Just you watch

Surely Wigan are a much healthier club after he took them from the brink of relegation to brink of Grand Final (twice)?

Who ?

As we are, thanks. Although those aren't the only two choices.