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| Quote ="mwindass"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Looks that way and replaced next season with Featherstone or Leigh
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yes exciting isnt it
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| Quote ="bonaire"
I'd rather be deluded than the joy vacuum you are
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Looks that way and replaced next season with Featherstone or Leigh
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I shall be tuning in tomorrow to Premier to watch this top of the table clash.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Shaul is hardly the main problem we have and in all fairness even if Connor had played we would have still been well beaten.
Until this coach does something about the indiscipline this type of defeat will be regular.
When asked about the teams indiscipline all Hodgson says is its something we talk about.Dumb or what?'"
IF Connor had played no one can say what would have happened. He’s the team’s talisman, taking the onus of creation from the dire halfbacks, we have. Why is it that everything you say is correct and anyone who has a different view is wrong. Indiscipline on the pitch really isn’t Hodgson’s fault, it’s the bloody stupid players who are guilty of bloody stupid indiscipline. He’s not dumb, it’s the bloody stupid players. I made my view on this thread and predicted our slow slide down the league because we’ve pinned everything on Connor. Reynolds and Gale are passengers, Shaull’s past it but you wanted him in the team, he’s past it but you slated Yeamo when he was in the same position. Rant over, Uber.
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| Quote ="mwindass"At least we don't support Wire'"
We are going to play them for the 'wait til next year' cup
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| Quote ="Armavinit"IF Connor had played no one can say what would have happened. He’s the team’s talisman, taking the onus of creation from the dire halfbacks, we have. Why is it that everything you say is correct and anyone who has a different view is wrong. Indiscipline on the pitch really isn’t Hodgson’s fault, it’s the bloody stupid players who are guilty of bloody stupid indiscipline. He’s not dumb, it’s the bloody stupid players. I made my view on this thread and predicted our slow slide down the league because we’ve pinned everything on Connor. Reynolds and Gale are passengers, Shaull’s past it but you wanted him in the team, he’s past it but you slated Yeamo when he was in the same position. Rant over, Uber.'"
If you are going to have a rant then please get your facts correct
1) Even Hodgson said after this game Connor would have made no difference
2) Hodgson is the coach of the club and responsible for all team matters and that includes discipline on and off the pitch..Indiscipline has been a serious matter for months yet nothing has been done.All he says is its something we talk about.If the players arnt doing what he asks then drop them
3) Shaul did little wrong yesterday and i agree he is past his best but it was a better decision in my opinion and obviously the coach agreed to play Shaul at full back rather than move players around yet you criticise me for wanting him in the team.
4) Shaul is standing in for an injured player.Yeaman was cemented in the team and stole a living from the club.big difference
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| Quote ="bonaire"If you are going to have a rant then please get your facts correct
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Is this another opinion piece?
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| Just for some context on our indiscipline issue. These are the penalties conceded by both teams in our last few games:
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Wakey 2
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We've conceded the 5th most penalties so far this season.
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| What does seem a concern for me is the view of BH in relation to the Gale & Reynolds as according to the piece in the HDM he insists the partnership is still a work in progress I really don’t think many would argue that on the evidence so far that’s just a fantasy. Let’s be honest these two aren’t young inexperienced players that are wet behind the ears and green. They are seasoned pros with a wealth of experience yet Ave so far delivered absolutely nothing and must be the worst HB in SL this season.
Read it [url=https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/luke-gale-josh-reynolds-hodgson-7196706here[/url
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"The reporters are virtually embedded at the club, so no journalist will compromise the relationship.
Looks like a scorched earth policy from a journalist who’s free to say how it is in his final match.'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"If you are going to have a rant then please get your facts correct
1) Even Hodgson said after this game Connor would have made no difference
2) Hodgson is the coach of the club and responsible for all team matters and that includes discipline on and off the pitch..Indiscipline has been a serious matter for months yet nothing has been done.All he says is its something we talk about.If the players arnt doing what he asks then drop them
3) Shaul did little wrong yesterday and i agree he is past his best but it was a better decision in my opinion and obviously the coach agreed to play Shaul at full back rather than move players around yet you criticise me for wanting him in the team.
4) Shaul is standing in for an injured player.Yeaman was cemented in the team and stole a living from the club.big difference'"
OK.
1) Where did you get that information, I haven’t seen it.
2) What don’t you understand about bloody stupid players making bloody stupid decisions in game time. Gale and Reynolds have spent more time in the stands then any other 2 players.
3) Shaull’s past it full stop but there is an alternative, Wynne’s playing centre, INJURIES!!!
4) Your criticism of Kirk is paranoid at least, did he say something bad to your Mum? Or was that Griffin. You say he stole a living but Shaull and Bowden are doing the same plus Johnstone but we couldn’t move them on. If their in the playing pool you have to use them when we’ve got injuries. FFS Carlos has gone now, suppose you’ll bleat on about Mitch now.
One trick pony!!!!
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| Quote ="mwindass"We've conceded the 5th most penalties so far this season.'" There is nowhere to find the amount of 6 agains a team has conceded but we would be near the top of that.
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| Quote ="Chris71"What does seem a concern for me is the view of BH in relation to the Gale & Reynolds as according to the piece in the HDM he insists the partnership is still a work in progress
I really don’t think many would argue that on the evidence so far that’s just a fantasy. Let’s be honest these two aren’t young inexperienced players that are wet behind the ears and green. They are seasoned pros with a wealth of experience yet Ave so far delivered absolutely nothing and must be the worst HB in SL this season.'" There is loyalty to players and not wanting to throw them under the bus but BH is really looking like he's got his head in the sand when it comes to Reynolds and Gale.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Quote ="Chris71"What does seem a concern for me is the view of BH in relation to the Gale & Reynolds as according to the piece in the HDM he insists the partnership is still a work in progress
I really don’t think many would argue that on the evidence so far that’s just a fantasy. Let’s be honest these two aren’t young inexperienced players that are wet behind the ears and green. They are seasoned pros with a wealth of experience yet Ave so far delivered absolutely nothing and must be the worst HB in SL this season.'" There is loyalty to players and not wanting to throw them under the bus but BH is really looking like he's got his head in the sand when it comes to Reynolds and Gale.'"
HF, I totally agree and you could understand if he was talking about two younger green players but he isn't he is talking about two very experienced and seasoned professional players.
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| Quote ="Chris71"HF, I totally agree and you could understand if he was talking about two younger green players but he isn't he is talking about two very experienced and seasoned professional players.'" The fact he saw Reynolds day in day out at Wests and decided to bring him over on a 2+1 contract is just crazy to me. The blokes clearly lost trust in his body which is why he makes those ridiculous attempts to tackle players.
I thought when we signed Gale it would be a risk that would work as he always came across as somebody who has a massive ego and would want to prove he still had it unfortunately it's not worked at all and he just looks an angry frustrated player because he has lost it and Leeds were right.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"OK.
1) Where did you get that information, I haven’t seen it.
2) What don’t you understand about bloody stupid players making bloody stupid decisions in game time. Gale and Reynolds have spent more time in the stands then any other 2 players.
3) Shaull’s past it full stop but there is an alternative, Wynne’s playing centre, INJURIES!!!
4) Your criticism of Kirk is paranoid at least, did he say something bad to your Mum? Or was that Griffin. You say he stole a living but Shaull and Bowden are doing the same plus Johnstone but we couldn’t move them on. If their in the playing pool you have to use them when we’ve got injuries. FFS Carlos has gone now, suppose you’ll bleat on about Mitch now.
One trick pony!!!!'"
Having now read Hodgson’s comments I find it strange to say the scoreline would have been the same with Connor? He can change a game in an instant. Think he was alluding to the fact that the forwards didn’t get the chance to dominate so chances were few and far between. Hodgson does seem a bit lost at the moment with the injuries but isn’t helping himself sticking with Reynolds. Just read a post saying he’s got his head in the sand, more like his hands.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"The fact he saw Reynolds day in day out at Wests and decided to bring him over on a 2+1 contract is just crazy to me.'"
To me, this decision alone is enough to see him gone. Hodgson must really undervalue SL to think Reynolds could offer more than your run of the mill championship halfback.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"The fact he saw Reynolds day in day out at Wests and decided to bring him over on a 2+1 contract is just crazy to me. The blokes clearly lost trust in his body which is why he makes those ridiculous attempts to tackle players.
I thought when we signed Gale it would be a risk that would work as he always came across as somebody who has a massive ego and would want to prove he still had it unfortunately it's not worked at all and he just looks an angry frustrated player because he has lost it and Leeds were right.'"
HF
Do you have any theory, why we play our '6' on the right edge,than the left edge??
Cheers
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| Quote ="weaver93"HF
Do you have any theory, why we play our '6' on the right edge,than the left edge??
Cheers'"
Most halfbacks have a preference for one side. There can be a problem if both like the same side but that is usually a consideration when making signings
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"The fact he saw Reynolds day in day out at Wests and decided to bring him over on a 2+1 contract is just crazy to me. The blokes clearly lost trust in his body which is why he makes those ridiculous attempts to tackle players.
I thought when we signed Gale it would be a risk that would work as he always came across as somebody who has a massive ego and would want to prove he still had it unfortunately it's not worked at all and he just looks an angry frustrated player because he has lost it and Leeds were right.'"
I've never been one for criticising individual players on this forum and definitely not young players making their way in the game but I have to agree with you. Both have had long largely successful careers and have earned a decent living from the game but are clearly no longer capable of contributing at this level.
Going forward it's a major worry that Hodgson after making expensive misjudgements with these two is in charge of recruitment for next season.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"I've never been one for criticising individual players on this forum and definitely not young players making their way in the game but I have to agree with you. Both have had long largely successful careers and have earned a decent living from the game but are clearly no longer capable of contributing at this level.
Going forward it's a major worry that Hodgson after making expensive misjudgements with these two is in charge of recruitment for next season.'"
May be not
A loss at Warrington would really put him under pressure.
If he doesnt make the necessary changes at half back and we dont see an improvement to the on field indiscipline he may not make the end of the season
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| Quote ="mwindass"Just for some context on our indiscipline issue. These are the penalties conceded by both teams in our last few games:
Cats 8
Hull 7
Wakey 2
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Hull 7
Wigan 7
Saints 10
Hull 9
We've conceded the 5th most penalties so far this season.'"
If you add six agains and errors i bet we are top of the league
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| Quote ="bonaire"If you add six agains and errors i bet we are top of the league'"
Well at least you get your wish of Griffin not playing the next one. One match ban.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"I've never been one for criticising individual players on this forum and definitely not young players making their way in the game but I have to agree with you. Both have had long largely successful careers and have earned a decent living from the game but are clearly no longer capable of contributing at this level.
Going forward it's a major worry that Hodgson after making expensive misjudgements with these two is in charge of recruitment for next season.'"
May be not
A loss at Warrington would really put him under pressure.
If he doesnt make the necessary changes at half back and we dont see an improvement to the on field indiscipline he may not make the end of the season'"
Agree with what you say and a loss to what is probably one of the poorest performing Warrington sides during SL then I think that is a question that needs to be asked by AP. Hopefully he learnt the lesson of hanging on too long to a coach that failed to get the consistency in performances and move the club forward.
I have to say after the pitiful performance that the team served up at Cas when they were in a mess on the field I really don't have a lot of confidence of a result at the Halliwell Jones.
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