I never expected a win. However I didn't expect that lame effort.

but thats the sort of performances you get with a team we had playing lol

Ref was appalling but hull werent much better,hope we get a General signed for next season that can lead the team around a bit

Moving a couple of players around and playing a few fringe ones really doesn't alter the simple facts that we should be reasonably organised, particularly with the fact that we had our 1st choice half backs and hooker. it doesn't stop seasoned pros playing with some aggression and enthusiasm, nor does it stop players supporting the ball carrier, making dummy runs or chasing kicks down effectively. You can make all the excuses you want but the facts are that the team is far from being as effective as it should be

It wasn't a team of novices FFS

Believe I said that in the very post you quoted.

You carry on ignoring facts so you can paint a darker picture than necessary. Things are bad enough without making them out to be worse.

agreed...... at times we did some good stuff though. just not enough of it and for not long enough periods.

3/10 lol

Our lack of support play is astounding. Matched by our speed of PTB. Dog turd.

lol no need for the ffs im just having a chat

i agree and i also wanted to see more from them but im just saying im not suprised by the performance

Thought you were having a dig suggesting McRae was choosing our recruitment as others have suggested on here. Fair enough if not, apologies.

Yes I do also think that Pearson's RL knowledge is still limited, but so long as Gentle picks/has picked the right players that's what matters.

The only thing we'll win this season is the "greatest lack of attitude" award.

If we continue at this rate, and if we loose anymore key players, ellis will be tearing his contract up early!

Yeah sorry for that. I just can't accept this mediocrity anymore. Too many on here making excuse after excuse for under achievement.

The team are very poor with no idea in attack. Manu and Turner should go now because both clearly don't have any intention of playing for us. Tonight has shown how a poor Leeds team could look good even with pi55 poor ref decisions. It's not often I lose faith but tonight has shown yet again after 6 years that the club is full of mediocrity.

You keep ignoring the facts that we should be far more organised with our 1st choice half backs on the pitch. TBH, if you were a syed in the wool RL person I'd think you were taking the pish with this line of posting but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt seeing as you're a johnny come lately to the game

It's because none of the players have met each other until this week apparantly

i said at the start of the season we'd be 8 to 6th.... some people got carried away early doors so where abouts where i thought we would be. Some people expectations are too high also.

I doubt that gentle has been the driver in recruiting players from SL. How may games do you think he's seen arundell and crookes play?

Surely it's about time this club started meeting the fans expectations. Why should we have to lower ours?

Possibly the most one-sided officiating I've ever seen. Forward passes that weren't. Offsides that weren't. Passes off the floor that weren't. Pushing after being taken out worse than the original offence. Knock ons that were backwards. And then the inconsistency of giving penalties. From the moment the ref bottled binning Ablett (think it was him) for a professional foul (holding back one of our players on the break), I knew it was gonna be a joke.

All I can say is defensively, to only concede 3 tries against a Leeds team with all that possession near our line and most of it from dubious refereeing decisions was remarkable. In attack, we were gash, but we had to chase the game from stupid positions in wet conditions so it was always going to be a tall order.

That game has just put me right off going to any more Leeds away games. He was even wearing the same colour.

lol i agree with you... we shouldnt.

Since the Swain, Domic, Cooke, Briscoe era, we've gone !

There where plenty of articles in HDM telling fans we are aiming for top 4 this season, of course this will raise fans expectations

I think Ellis will see the bigger picture tbh

Said exactly the same myself tonight.

ahhhhhhh sense

but also at time our defence was too poor and leeds attack wasnt that great tonight either...