AP has already stretched the finances this year. People thinking there is cash to pay off Radford and Last and bring in a new coaching team including paying a release fee should prepare themselves for disappointment IMO.

Take away the 2 CC wins (which yes, are amazing achievements) what have we done under radders?

We have played poor rugby, not looked like challenging for grand finals.

We've seen the same old errors, penalties, poor style, more recently poor defence. All this with different set of players. So all things have stayed the same except the players...doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out what the probably is.

Yes, I cheered when. We won both CC finals, but even back then, it was papering over the cracks. I've said I wanted radders out since before we won the CC finals, always stuck by it.

We have not made any real progress in the years of radders. Better coaches have done more, with less quality, less money etc

I really can't see why a few people can't see radders has to go. I see " its only a few games in" bit its not...its several years in and its the same old chit!

As for other coaches, who would take over or who I would want to take over...my first choice would be Powell at Cas, he always gets the best out of players, most players that if FC would sign, we would be asking why, they're crap etc. He gets cas playing good rugby, exciting rugby and winning rugby.

So that's where I would go.

I can 100% promise you that Mat Head loves Hull FC. Given the chance and if the circumstances were right he would return.

why would Powell leave Cas

I’m pretty sure James Clarke said that the club are often in touch with him regarding player recruitment.

What about the first 20 minutes when we were literally camped in their 20 yet clearly lost our way and came away with nothing.
Sound familiar?
This is a continuing problem and surely a responsibility of the coaching staff to implement plays that lead to us breaking a defence.
It was easy for Catalan.
I agree we switched off and the players have to take responsibility but again this is nothing new at this club and if we can see it why dont the coaches do something about it.

Didn't we make the semi final in 2016 and 2017?

Our inability to turn pressure in the oppositions 25 into points has been a common problem for three seasons now.
Today was a good indicator. We continued looking for barge overs while Catalan created overlaps with ease.

Fair enough, I dont know the guy, I just remember it being a botched decision to let him go during a period where we swapped half backs ever season out of despiration.

You'll have to fight Wire for him.....
Then again he might not want either.

Yes the players have to take responsibility, but in most cases these players are the 2nd or 3rd Radford has signed or promoted from the academy to play in their position.

Aside from Shaul, Houghton, Ellis and a then young Bowden its an entirely different set of players to Radfords first season, yet we still play mainly the same way and are still unable to play for 80mins, surely all the players who have been and gone over the Radford years cant all be bad players.

I’ve lost interest
That’s what I said under Agar and become my signature lol
And here we go again

A good (top) coach would more then pay for themselves.

I wonder how much has Radford cost Person and the club in losses (financially)

We are a top club and a very attractive job for both Uk based and overseas coaches. In my opinion if Pearson wanted to i am certain we have the contacts overseas to bring in an Aussie coach.
The problem is it would take Radford to resign.
Clean sweep needed with both Radford and Last moving on and the job not just passed onto current staff.
Just think what Tony Smith could do with our squad and resources

I'm now in this club! Where do I sign up, do I get a membership number? Inept again. Couple of great plays covered up a lot of cracks again. But that's the story of this current Hull FC side. Sneyds drop goal covers up the fact he cannot create anything and his defence is woeful and started their comeback. Shaul has been very ordinary and cannot be a pivot, yet people will laud him for that try today (which came from him following the ball which is what he needs to do all the time!) Change needed.

Would they need a pay off? Thought they were on week to week contracts. However I'm now prepared for disappointment whatever occurs.

You can have nobby noble

The only thing I agree with in this is, Shaul is not a pivot.
Get Connor in at full back, problem sorted.

Week to week - where was this reported? My opinion is that the funds required to change coaching teams to the calibre many expect is probably unrealistic given additional cash already sunk on the squad.

Connor proved today that he is not a 6. Did more in 25mins at centre than the previous 4 games at 6

It's a rolling contract as such I believe

Radford has said several times he doesn't sign a new contract or worry about signing one, they just have an agreement for it to roll on as Wilde 3 says.

Kind of my position too.

Apathy is the best word to describe it. I can't even be bothered to have a rant about it. We need a change just to get a bit of excitement around the club again.

Sadly I just can't see anything happening any time soon. We may well beat Warrington next week, but frankly I don't care.

I said that to my old man when the teams came out and he said it was just like polite applause. Complete apathy.

Surely we can backload a contract like we have done with players previously. I.e. a smaller amount this season as its an unbudgeted expense offset by higher amount next season. If we have to let our large cast of squad players who rarely play to pay for it then so be it.

As others have said both Pearson and Radford have confirmed he is on a rolling contract, there is no large payoff to make.