it tells you everything when Limpdick says it's the best win he's ever been involved in!

Like a rovers fan put on facebook. "He should tell his face he's happy."

It must be embarassing to have reached a "career high" where a dubious two point win in Manchester outshines a Grand Final win in the NRL as assistant coach.

Very much so. Another example of incompetence from the officials and not in the least bit surprising.

His decisions helped to create a result that ruined my week end away. I was pretty a broken man on Saturday evening in Manchester. Personally I don't blame my team at all, the majority of refs I believe would simply have held up play whilst Martin got treatment or went off, and a pass as clearly forward as that Dobson received would have been struck off, both without any qualms from rovers players or fans. Because thats what happens when a rule is broken or a player is down injured in our game.
Silly I know, but I actually feel like Ganson is making a single handed personal attack on my belief in the spirit of our Sport. He conjures up such anger in me with his inept decision making that I as a placid person just fill with rage at what he is doing out there in changing the outcome of results.
Will the RL do anything to safeguard our game ? and the way it is projected on screens to the masses who must watch in wonder as they challenge their own vision as they see things which they thought they clearly saw as one thing being judged as something very different????. This man is not doing our game any favours. The fans of all clubs need to let their voice be heard. For a start we need to have a bigger pool of Super League refs and the RL need to do what it takes investment wise to make this happen. Only then will they have the leverage to change/penalise refs who change results with incorrect decision-making.

Ganson had a really poor second half and the forward pass was shocking. We shouldn't have let the lead slip though but we also got some bad luck along the way. Martin getting injured gave them the ball and then they scored where he would have been defendinga couple of tackles later. Then the forward pass which was a joke. Then poor defending by Turner, Seymour and Sharp for the winning try. Wasn't really a capitulation but we had the game in the bag and where the better side for most of it.

Anyone else think that if we had Whiting playing we would have won? To quote Dobson yesterday (who was talking to my mate) "how did the referee not see that"?

Speaking to Rich Whiting on Friday.... he was 'livid' that he had been suspended. He really wanted to be at Manchester..... but said he couldnt sit on the sides and watch.Not a happy bunny at all !!!!

But Martin didn't just go down with cramp, did he? It's potentially a career ending injury for him, almost certainly at Hull, and he had to be carried off. It was a joke that there was a spinalboard and 3-4 medical staff on the pitch whilst the game was still playing!

The game stopped for the Wigan/Saints game for an injury.

As I said earlier how many times has anyone seen a player stretchered off in back play whilst a game continued to be played ? He finished up being carried off on shoulders as the conversion was being kicked I suspect because he was near the sideline/dugout otherwise they would have carried him on the stretcher. Pathetic work from the officials.

Just looked on YouTube to see wether the. Stretcher was on or if he was been carried off whilst Latus was scoring but there's nothing there YET, I'm not saying this didn't happen, but it seems a bit on the quick side if it did.
It looksed like he went down with cramp at the time so I'm not suprised the ref didn't stop it tbh. Usually when a serious injury happens the tacklers alert the ref, unfortunately for Tony Martin and Hull, this was a freakish injury that had none.

Having just seen the above post, scrap the first part of this post.

Morning Ladies, my 1st appearance on here since the game. I'm not trolling or even gloating but my 2 penneth is this. The forward pass was a truly awful decision, and one that Ganson should even have seen himself from in-goal. We had moved from behind the sticks at half time and relocated in the corner, directly in line with the incident. Conservatively, the pass ended up about 3 feet forward, and Ganson immediately looked to his TJ. The real villan in the piece just ran to the corner so Ganson gave it.

There was a Hull fan sat behind me and I found myself apologising to him for such a gash decision. However, I certainly thought it was just mere consolation at the time. Seymour was the ultimate cause of your loss, as he put in a "Welham-esque" tackle attempt on Hodgson. I still can't work out why Sharp got burned for pace thereafter.

Heads up people, it was only 2 points, and if you play remotely to your potential you will be top 6, and bounce back to thump Saints. At the same time, we will revert to type and get humped by Wire. One final thing, I haven't read the full thread, but was there really any need to suggest that Dobson deserves a [i"good kicking[/i" for being a[i "cheating little turd[/i"? What was he supposed to do in the circumstances?

I don't blame Dobsonat all, blame Ganson. As for Seymour/Sharp, their effort was poor at the end put they should not have been in that situation in the first place.

Whoever said that is a bit silly imo.

Talking of poor refs, why wasn't there a big stink when Halibut gave a 20 mt restart after Sinfield jumped from the field of play and caught the ball in goal, then did a quick tap and Leeds went on to score a match clinching try?
Lots of poor refs unfortunately and it's just not getting better.

Lots of poor referees

My Mrs noticed a player down and as we tried to work out who it was, I ignored the play so I saw all the movement from the physios. Almost as soon as the first one reached Martin, he signalled and the second one ran out, followed by the spinal board/stretcher. The first gesture was pretty clear that Martin wasn't taking any further part and the speed of movement from the rest indicated to me, albeit 70/80 metres away, that it was a serious injury. Whether play stops is up to the officials, but as long as they're consistent in future and we get some benefit, no complaints

Ganson/TJ made a bad mistake with the forward pass, but the only people to blame are the team for letting a 14 point lead slip. For a team that has been very good defensively (barring Wigan) we should not be letting games slip away like that. Hopefully the team will learn from this and we can kick on with a win against Saints this week.

As for the Martin injury, firstly it was not a head injury and secondly it was not interfering with play so the decision to play on was the correct decision as far as i am concerned. If we start stopping the play every time a player goes down, we will soon be into the realms of football and players will feign injury to get defences set again.

I still don't understand this argument, Latus scored on Martin's wing so his injury directly interfered with play. And what if Briscoe got an intercept and ran into Martin and his doctors? Ridiculous decision to play on.

Pretty sure if Briscoe made an intercept he would see where the injured player/doctors were and would avoid them. It did not interfere with play, yes it hampered us with a player short but why should the opposition lose momentum because a player is injured?? It would like i said leave it wide open for teams to exploit and anybody who thinks teams would not is kidding themselves.
Would people be saying the same thing if Welham was injured and we went on to score??

It really wasn't. All your argument is based on hindsight, whereas at the time, it was an injury to a player in back play, something that happens in almost every game. The severity of the injury could not have been known at the time, nor could the potential consequences.

Reverting to stopping the game under these circumstances would change RL completely and we would all get home 10 mins later every week.

So Briscoe has to avoid doctors, and so do the players chasing him? Load of rubbish. It was an unfair advantage and pure BS.

Head injury has knack all to do with it, seems your already in the realms of football. It was a serious injury that required multiple medical staff to enter the field of play including a stretcher. In fact they decided not use the stretcher in the end and just carry him off between 2 of them presumably because "look at me" decided not to stop the game to give them the chance to get set up, this could have made the injury worse if they had fallen whilst carrying him. The really frustrating thing is if it happens in his next game he is just as likely to decide to stop play on that occasion as he has done in the past.

Play is always stopped when a stretcher is brought on to the field thankfully. Except on this occasion of course.

Plenty of times games have carried on only for the player to be stretchered off later. And it will happen again because refs only have a short amount of time to make a decision in those situations. Only a couple of weeks ago against Leeds, some on here were moaning that the ref stopped the game when a Leeds player went down with what at first looked like a head injury but turned out to be something else.
We cannot have it both ways.

Operational rules state that Play should be stopped when a doctor is required to enter the field. This is to protect the player and also the doctor. If the doctor is flattened by a prop and is injured, the game would be abandoned as a game cannot take place without a doctor present.

I don't want it both ways (way hay !)

I want the team of officials (both on and off the field) to see that a stretcher is being brought on the field and to stop the game on the basis that there may well be a seriously injured player to be dealt with. They are all linked up with comms so why would that be hard to do ? I'll pose the question again to you - how many times do you see a player stretchered off the field whilst play is ongoing ? Pretty rare - if ever I would say. The officials are normally (rightly) over cautious.

FWIW I suspect the officials on Saturday would have preferred to have stopped the game with hindsight not because a try was scored (which isn't really relevant) but because a player was potentially requiring a stretcher to leave the field. I don't believe that between them they saw that a stretcher was on which is why it wasn't stopped. That is why I think they were incompetent in this case as they should have been aware of it. There were about 3 or 4 meds/physios on I've no idea if any were a doctor (probably not) but normally I believe the game would have been stopped in that situation.