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| Quote ="Garry Brindley Esq."I said at the time that Kath giving Horne another two years just before the takeover got completed reminded me of when Bill Clinton dished out all those pardons during his last days in office.'"
One-year contract would have being 12 months too long.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Kosh I find your constant rolling eyes and your use of ffs sake offensive, as a moderator I would expect better behaviour .
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| Quote ="GEvans75"One-year contract would have being 12 months too long.'"
I would have given him 12 months on the fact although he is now average imo, he has appeared to keep relatively injury free and our experience with lack of h/backs makes it a no brainer for me, definitely not 2 though.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Horne deserved a new deal and I think two years is about right.'"
'Deserved' on the basis of what?... Sympathy?... Turning in a few half decent performances against the lesser sides?.. Managing to string more than two games together without getting injured?
Horne is nowhere near good enough anymore for a team with aspirations of being in the top 4.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"I would have given him 12 months on the fact although he is now average .'"
so we only give proper contracts to superstars now then??
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| Quote ="Garry Brindley Esq."'Deserved' on the basis of what?... Sympathy?... Turning in a few half decent performances against the lesser sides?.. Managing to string more than two games together without getting injured?
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so given the availability of hundreds of other half backs who would you have had instead then
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"so given the availability of hundreds of other half backs who would you have had instead then
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Seymour, Ellis, Obst?
Btw im not dissing Horne. If hes on a reduced contract and will be back up half then its a good move by the club
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"That is a good point, we have young talent who clearly excel in the 20s however are not quite ready for SL other clubs send them in the championship to gain that extra experience apart from Craig Hall I cannot remember when we last did this.'"
Burnett, Aldous, Green and Morrison have all been loaned out this season haven't they?
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"Burnett, Aldous, Green and Morrison have all been loaned out this season haven't they?'"
Yep.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"so given the availability of hundreds of other half backs who would you have had instead then
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Oh that's easy.
Since we already have Seymour, Ellis and Obst that can play in the halves I'd be happy to have had Nicklas in rather than Horne. 2 experienced pros and 2 youngsters looks a great balance to me.
Or, better still, if we'd waited a couple more weeks we could have got Witt.
You're probably going to pretend we couldn't do that because Horne was inundated with offers now aren't you?
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"Burnett, Aldous, Green and Morrison have all been loaned out this season haven't they?'"
Burnett to Quins, not sure about the other 3 though. However my point is directed more at players who are tried at SL level then dropped eg Lyne, Aldous, Green & Morrison have not done SL yet. I think instead of giving them a few games it would be more beneficial for them to do a full year, like Burnett to gain experience and build confidence at the same level each week.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Burnett to Quins, not sure about the other 3 though. However my point is directed more at players who are tried at SL level then dropped eg Lyne, Aldous, Green & Morrison have not done SL yet. I think instead of giving them a few games it would be more beneficial for them to do a full year, like Burnett to gain experience and build confidence at the same level each week.'"
To be fair, that point wasn't evident in the post I quoted.
Just had a check and Aldous was at York, Green & Morrison at Donny (there was an article on the HFC website about Green scoring tries for fun).
I agree though, Lyne seems like he could do with some Championship experience as the U20's is too easy for him, and he's not ready for SL just yet.
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"To be fair, that point wasn't evident in the post I quoted.
[uJust had a check and Aldous was at York, Green & Morrison at Donny (there was an article on the HFC website about Green scoring tries for fun[/u).
I agree though, Lyne seems like he could do with some Championship experience as the U20's is too easy for him, and he's not ready for SL just yet.'"
Be good for them will be interesting to see how they fair when we get them back and hopefully make the step up.
I think it does no harm to ship them out to learn their trade there should be no rush to get them in too young, I would love to see Lyne shipped for a 1 yr I think he could really benefit from it.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Horne deserved a new deal and I think two years is about right.'"
on what basis?? the guy has been a passenger for at least 2 years. miles past his best and getting progressivly older and slower....
should have got rid this year....
as ive stated paul, your forever the optomist, but you cant honestly say that our future lies with horne in our team, the guy is finished....
will these fc fans who dont want to see local lads given the boot PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take off your black and white tinted glasses, because its becoming mbarrassing to read some posts
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| Although he's staying with the club, unfortunately. He shouldn't be starting at all.
I'm not going to go on about his slow predictable drop off, but that's all he's got in his locker!
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| Quote ="Garry Brindley Esq."Oh that's easy.
Since we already have Seymour, Ellis and Obst that can play in the halves I'd be happy to have had Nicklas in rather than Horne. 2 experienced pros and 2 youngsters looks a great balance to me.
Or, better still, if we'd waited a couple more weeks we could have got Witt.
You're probably going to pretend we couldn't do that because Horne was inundated with offers now aren't you?'"
And how were we supposed to know that Crusaders were going to go pop and the RFL were going to bin the quota rules?
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"And how were we supposed to know that Crusaders were going to go pop and the RFL were going to bin the quota rules?'"
We weren't, but you're missing the point.
There was no need to commit to Horne that early and reduce our options, he was hardly going to be inundated with offers from elsewhere.
It seems a particularly stupid/cynical decision when you take into account that there was a takeover imminent.
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| Quote ="Garry Brindley Esq."We weren't, but you're missing the point.
There was no need to commit to Horne that early and reduce our options, he was hardly going to be inundated with offers from elsewhere.
It seems a particularly stupid/cynical decision when you take into account that there was a takeover imminent.'"
Fair point, but we do at least have the consoltation that only half his salary counts against the cap.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Fair point, but we do at least have the consoltation that only half his salary counts against the cap.'"
Yes but doesn't Yeamos wage count on that now too? I thought it was £50,000 per club no matter how many players are eligible for it?
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Yes but doesn't Yeamos wage count on that now too? I thought it was £50,000 per club no matter how many players are eligible for it?'"
it is £50k per club, and we still have to make that money, in effect we need nearly 800 season pass holder to pay for Horne, and his predictable drop off pass and kick to the full back that TomTom could only wish for the accuracy of!
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| Heard we've signed Eamon O'Carroll from Wigan, not sure if its being mentioned anywhere or if anyone else has heard anything ?
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Heard we've signed Eamon O'Carroll from Wigan, not sure if its being mentioned anywhere or if anyone else has heard anything ?'"
The wigan prop who hasn't played all year yeah he's being mentioned
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Heard we've signed Eamon O'Carroll from Wigan, not sure if its being mentioned anywhere or if anyone else has heard anything ?'"
He's replacing long on the "adam dykes" treatment table
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Heard we've signed Eamon O'Carroll from Wigan, not sure if its being mentioned anywhere or if anyone else has heard anything ?'"
tis true, i put that on page 7/8 of this thread. in for ben pomeroy too from cronulla
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