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| The thing that stood out for me last night was the atmosphere amongst the fans has turned from one of dissapointment to genuine hatred towards Agar.
This has the potential to get very messy if the performances continue and he doesnt leave.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Indeed. That's the point of being a fan, the shared experience. I noticed last night that there were seemingly record numbers on here as well and most of us with the club's best interest at heart but achingly disappointed at being consistently let down by the failure to deliver. Let's be right, having slept on it, last night was a humiliating result and this is no disrespect to Wakefield. Some might say even Wigan get surprised by weaker teams. This would be a fair point if it happened once or twice a season. 1 from 9 is pretty clear evidence that, despite a decent, if not spectacular squad, we are pretenders. And pretenders not only to the title, to qualifying for the play-offs.
The club is at a crossroads in my opinion. The fans have been unbelievably loyal for the last few seasons, but at some point the excellent off the field performance has to translate itself to performances on the pitch. Supporting rugby league is about watching the game, with the other stuff (remaining solvent aside) a "nice to have" for the supporters. We have got it the wrong way round.and many fans whose money is tight are undertandably saying the experience of losing to a team in administration boasting, again no offence, a ragbag of other clubs' rejects, to put us ahead only of clubs with points deductions is unacceptable. I feel more depressed about it now than I did last night, simply because it's like a nightmare I can't wake up from.
Unless something is done the club will continue to erode the goodwill which, even for club apologists like myself, is eroding at an alarming rate.'"
Excellent post. To reiterate a point I made last night, it is this unfullfilled potential of the club which is so frustrating to so many of us. It was the point we (the "Agar out" club) were trying to make throughout last season. Off the field the club is in a healthy position, highly commendable in these dark economic times, and heaven knows our club has sailed through some choppy waters in its past.
But, as you point out, somewhere down the line these advantages are not being translated into on field success at 1st team level which ultimately is the whole point for any sporting club's existence.
I think we would all now agree that the club has reached one of its irregular impasses. Under the current coaching regime we are going absolutely nowhere. Richard Agar's continued presence as our head coach will have only one effect, to exacerbate the feeling which has been all too obvious on this forum since 10:00 last night. We, the fans, are looking this morning for decisive leadership and action from the top of the club. We are looking for someone (Kath?) to take the decisions which will put this great club on its rightful path towards ultimately fullfilling its potential, and that potential is for us to be celebrating at Wembley/Old Trafford.
Our current situation is akin to having a leaking tap in the bathroom, if left unchecked the whole living room ceiling will come crashing down.
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| If Briscoe had held on to his three try scoring opportunities the majority on here wouldn't be having the Agar out conversation.
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| Quote ="hullian"If Briscoe had held on to his three try scoring opportunities the majority on here wouldn't be having the Agar out conversation.'"
Really?
So you found the game entertaining then?
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| Quote ="Dobbo Hull"
It's how I feel every week now, Hull F.C are the most predictable team in superleague, play the most boring rugby, can't play for a full 80 mins, and at the end of the day, have a coach that is tactically inept, and cannot get his players to perform.
Any good coach would and should be able to get them players wearing the shirt to run through brick walls for the cause, but they just won't, and never will.
Things need to change!
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A very sad Hull fan
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It was only a week ago you were calling for everyone to get behind the coach. A couple of weeks before that you were calling for his head. If we beat Quins, will everything be forgotten again?
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| Quote ="hullian"If Briscoe had held on to his three try scoring opportunities the majority on here wouldn't be having the Agar out conversation.'"
yeh we would and simple fact is briscoe dint take those balls and we bombed another couple of tries but so what and the end of the day we lost to a very poor wakey team who i have respect for but who are a shambles with so many young academy players havent even got a ground, simple fact we were absolute socking disorginised, no passion and dint deserve to win. we are 1 from 6 in the league and the club is going backwards which is depressing and upsetting as the potential for this club is absolute huge but a crap coach is holding us back
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| Quote ="hullian"If Briscoe had held on to his three try scoring opportunities the majority on here wouldn't be having the Agar out conversation.'"
I've wanted Agar out since 2009, it was quite clear very early on that he wasn't up to the job.
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| Strong rummour John Muggleton could be tempted back to RL if a Head coach position came up. Bags of experience knows the Area, great contacts and already in the country so im told with some welsh yawnion team.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It was only a week ago you were calling for everyone to get behind the coach. A couple of weeks before that you were calling for his head. If we beat Quins, will everything be forgotten again?'"
Sorry to say but it cannot be done now,he has lost the crowd now and i think everyone has had enough of him.
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| Quote ="major black"Strong rummour John Muggleton could be tempted back to RL if a Head coach position came up. Bags of experience knows the Area, great contacts and already in the country so im told with some welsh yawnion team.'"
Isn't he working for the other code ?
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| has to go now
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| Cheers lads.
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| Used to look forward to FC playing, now I don't. Sitting in the KC during the Leeds game was one of the dullest experiences of my life. I'd be dreading the Derby if Rovers weren't so poor, dread playing Warrington though.
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| hull fc as a club have been so dull, boring and predictable on and of the field now for 2-3 years, excuses and lack of ambition and lack of quality of coaching is holding this club back
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| I don't think he will get booted this week mainly due to the quick turnaround for Friday. I think though if we loose Friday then surely he cannot survive?
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| Unless he walks he won't be going anywhere, the board have made that very clear all last week, they are not going to change their minds after an away day defeat. Nice to see the players 'responding' to last weeks defeat though!!
I for one will not step foot back in the KC while he is at the helm, didn't renew my pass and i'm pleased i didn't (as painfull as that is for me to type!)
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| Think it will be easter until the board will act at the earliest, they will continue to back Agar. Unless he has enough and walsk which I can'ty see happening.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Think it will be easter until the board will act at the earliest, they will continue to back Agar. Unless he has enough and walsk which I can'ty see happening.'"
so we leave until easter and basically this season will just be another waste
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| Quote ="arliebird"so we leave until easter and basically this season will just be another waste'"
Yup seems like it.
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| Agar in!
Tactical changes result in stunning comeback.
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| Ohh well were going to have to wait a month longer for any change
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"Ohh well were going to have to wait a month longer for any change'"
Happy for today's performance?
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"Ohh well were going to have to wait a month longer for any change'"
I give in - you win a game .....................
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