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| i cant believe weve only beaten quins and crusaders since the last july derby win, absoulote awfull and surley agar has to go
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"That's a big fat fooking NO then is it?'"
I didn't mean to keep eliciting the opinions of morons, but thanks for giving the example anyway.
You backed Agar and we've won 2 games in 10, to try and get out of that one takes Houdini-like talents that people from Withernsea generally don't have.
The rest of us have to unite against the enemy that is Agar.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I didn't mean to keep eliciting the opinions of morons, but thanks for giving the example anyway.
You backed Agar and we've won 2 games in 10, to try and get out of that one takes Houdini-like talents that people from Withernsea generally don't have.
The rest of us have to unite against the enemy that is Agar.'"
Oh dear.
You really are a non-attending keybard warrior.
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| Quote ="Beanman"I'm not an apologist for Richard Agar and happen to think we probably do need a change of coach but to lay the blame for tonights result is unreasonable. I was at the game and to fault the effort or commitment is unreasonable. The players did not look bereft of ideas and had clearly been putting the work in on the training ground however the game was turned in to a total lottery by the referee. I don't think he was biased and on reflection I don't think he particularly gave Castleford the rub of the green he was just incompetent and turned the game in to a farce.
By all means blame Richard Agar for those things he is responsible for but to lay the blame for tonights defeat at his door makes about as much sense as blaming him for my poor spelling!'"
We were bereft of ideas. We had loads of posession in their half and created hardly anything
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Oh dear.
You really are a non-attending keybard warrior.
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Genuinely sorry you keep reacting like that mate, the argument over whether Agar is any good or not is long over.
I know you don't like me, and more importantly you don't like being wrong, but this wittering on about how many games I've been to or whether I'm a 'keyboard warrior' etc is just humiliating yourself now. If I wanted to get into a ing contest about how much money FC have had off us as fans, I can pretty much assure you that I'd win.
Please focus on what's best for the club rather than your own personal pride mate. This thread was intended as an olive branch, not for you to try and derail.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Genuinely sorry you keep reacting like that mate, the argument over whether Agar is any good or not is long over.
I know you don't like me, and more importantly you don't like being wrong, but this wittering on about how many games I've been to or whether I'm a 'keyboard warrior' etc is just humiliating yourself now. If I wanted to get into a ing contest about how much money FC have had off us as fans, I can pretty much assure you that I'd win.
Please focus on what's best for the club rather than your own personal pride mate. This thread was intended as an olive branch, not for you to try and derail.'"
Did you have your ear stuck to your mum and dads radio, layed on top of your single bed, hoping against all hope you may just have heard the faintest 'AGAR OUT' chants?
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Did you have your ear stuck to your mum and dads radio, layed on top of your single bed, hoping against all hope you may just have heard the faintest 'AGAR OUT' chants?
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Give it up. You backed the wrong donkey in agar and it's now time to hold your hands up and admit you're wrong
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Did you have your ear stuck to your mum and dads radio, layed on top of your single bed, hoping against all hope you may just have heard the faintest 'AGAR OUT' chants?
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How you can think comments like that are helping your case is beyond me. Best of luck though mate, we both support the same team ATEOTD.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Give it up. You backed the wrong donkey in agar and it's now time to hold your hands up and admit you're wrong'"
I suffer from Munchaussens Disease Jake.
I want to change my ways but it's secretly enjoyable.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I wasn't at at the game tonight so I can't comment on how bad the ref was, but it is amusing to me that certain posters who were mocking me for daring to pass an opinion on the Quins match last week, were on this week's in-match thread berating the referee from their arm chairs.
It really is irrelevant now though, after the Wigan 'performance' many of the staunch apologists went so far as to say that we needed to win 4 of our next 5 or they'd reconsider their position.. We've lost 2 of those 3 already, surely there can't be a soul that still wants to back the clown out of any other reason than pure stubborness?
I realise I've wound a lot of people up on this forum and I'm a hard man to agree with, but we have to unite and get this clown out before he does any more damage. Blaming the ref when we're two wins in ten is beyond pathetic.'"
Why do you have to come out with things like 'Apologists' it's pathetic. Just because people have a different opinion they need to be labelled?
Agar isn't the right man but tonight was about the ref, no question imo. The ref is not to blame for our other defeats and Agar's record but he was a huge factor tonight.
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"I suffer from Munchaussens Disease Jake.
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So you pretend that I'm Agar and that's why you dislike me so much?
Makes sense now!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"W[uhy do you have to come out with things like 'Apologists' it's pathetic.[/u[u Just because people have a different opinion they need to be labelled?[/u
Agar isn't the right man but tonight was about the ref, no question imo. The ref is not to blame for our other defeats and Agar's record but he was a huge factor tonight.'"
Don't need to look any further than your first sentence Paul.
The term 'apologist' is used left, right and centre on this board yet you suddenly choose to take me to task over its use for no other reason than because you have no argument left besides attempting indignation.
You're better than that.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Don't need to look any further than your first sentence Paul.
The term 'apologist' is used left, right and centre on this board yet you suddenly choose to take me to task over its use for no other reason than because you have no argument left besides attempting indignation.
You're better than that.'"
Why apologists. Some are pro Agar and some are anti Agar. Why do people get given names because they don;t agree with you.
I said the day he was appointed he was not the right man and have not changed my mind but that does not mean everything is his fault.
I have plenty of arguments left in me, tonights game was not a great performance but with a better ref I firmly believe we would have won.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"So you pretend that I'm Agar and that's why you dislike me so much?
Makes sense now!
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Something like that.
Come to the Bradford game next week and voice your protestations at the ground, or do you think you'll be p!ssing in the wind amongst all the apologists?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why apologists. Some are pro Agar and some are anti Agar. Why do people get given names because they don;t agree with you.
I said the day he was appointed he was not the right man and have not changed my mind but that does not mean everything is his fault.
I have plenty of arguments left in me, tonights game was not a great performance but with a better ref I firmly believe we would have won.'"
You're still doing it, I'm not trying to be patronising but if you seriously think you're fooling anyone with your sudden attempt to be annoyed by the 'apologist' accusation then it's not working. One of the best posters on here (Mrs Barista) freely admits to the tag, while the Expro/Icreaman continues to be allowed to refer to people as 'diks' and 'ringpieces'.
Yet tonight, Paul M is annoyed by the word 'apologists'.
You're having a laugh.
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Something like that.
Come to the Bradford game next week and voice your protestations at the ground, or do you think you'll be p!ssing in the wind amongst all the apologists?'"
It's perhaps natural that someone from Withernsea should always see the best way to resolve an issue as being within a context of confrontation.
Some of us just don't see life like that though mate.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"You're still doing it, I'm not trying to be patronising but if you seriously think you're fooling anyone with your sudden attempt to be annoyed by the 'apologist' accusation then it's not working. One of the best posters on here (Mrs Barista) freely admits to the tag, while the Expro/Icreaman continues to be allowed to refer to people as 'diks' and 'ringpieces'.
Yet tonight, Paul M is annoyed by the word 'apologists'.
You're having a laugh.'"
Annoyed
I am not annoyed I just don't see the need for it. They are not apologists they just see things differently.
I don't care what anyone else says I don't like names being chucked about either by pro or anti Agar fans.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Annoyed
I am not annoyed I just don't see the need for it. They are not apologists they just see things differently.
I don't care what anyone else says I don't like names being chucked about either by pro or anti Agar fans.'"
So you're not annoyed, good job.
Why bring it up then?
To distract from the fact you can't really argue with the other stuff I'm saying?
Surely not.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"It's perhaps natural that someone from Withernsea should always see the best way to resolve an issue as being within a context of confrontation.
Some of us just don't see life like that though mate.'"
Sadly it's you shouting out the rallying call on a fooking internet forum pleading for people to [iunite[/i.
Wouldn't you be better served attending games and talking to people with the same mindset?
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| Quote ="garry brindley"So you're not annoyed, good job.
Why bring it up then?
To distract from the fact you can't really argue with the other stuff I'm saying?
Surely not.'"
Are you a bit dim tonight? I agree Agar has to go. I don't however blame him for everything or call people apologists etc. A win or a loss changes little imo, he did nothing wrong tonight, it was a decent performance and we should have won the game. We could win the next five and I still would not change my mind.
The FACTS are that he is our coach so all the moaning in the world is not going to change that.
After the Wakey game the crowd were baying for his blood, that was not the case tonight. partly due to the ref and partly due to the fact that we played ok.
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Sadly it's you shouting out the rallying call on a fooking internet forum pleading for people to [iunite[/i.
Wouldn't you be better served attending games and talking to people with the same mindset?'"
I've had enough mate, your bottom line is that if you attend games then you're opinion is worth more than those who have chosen not to/ are unable to.
It's so simplistic that it doesn't deserve a considered response.
If it makes you feel like you're a better fan/care more about the club/ know more about what's best for it then good luck to you.
This thread really wasn't meant to be an argument, it probably wants locking.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Are you a bit dim tonight? I agree Agar has to go. I don't however blame him for everything or call people apologists etc. A win or a loss changes little imo, he did nothing wrong tonight, it was a decent performance and we should have won the game. We could win the next five and I still would not change my mind.
The FACTS are that he is our coach so all the moaning in the world is not going to change that.
After the Wakey game the crowd were baying for his blood, that was not the case tonight. partly due to the ref and partly due to the fact that we played ok.'"
'A bit dim tonight?'
Paul you're losing your grip. Lock the thread.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"'A bit dim tonight?'
Paul you're losing your grip. Lock the thread.'"
Well you are not getting what I am saying that's why I ask. You ignored the rest of my post!
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| How anyone can make a judgement on tonights game without being there is baffling
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"How anyone can make a judgement on tonights game without being there is baffling
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Don't be daft! We're all "sour grapes", was all Agar's fault, AGAR OUT!!
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