Would like to break into the top4 as it offers such an advantage in the playoffs, but would be content with a playoff finish.

signing a half back is crucial, and I think we will miss the 8 if we don't. Long and Horne's fitness record and lack of pace means they aren't an option for next season IMO. I would aim for a new no6 and pair him with Long, with Horne providing cover/competition in the backs.

Would also like to see a big improvement in our CC performances, we have gone out at the first hurdle 2 years in a row and that isn't acceptable for a club of our size and ambitions.

as for our playing style, of course I would like to see a more attractive style, but with the lack of salary cap realistically I think we will have to accept that we are going to continue to be a 'drive it up the middle' team for at least another season. I do however want to see a massive improvement in the basic skills: our passing and playing of the ball are painfully slow and at times amateur.

Agreed, especially the underlined bit.

We've not won a "knock out" game since the Challenge Cup semi in 2008, which is a very poor record.

A new coach

An attacking game plan

Pride & passion

A new halfback signing

not a lot you can disagree with there

in fact, at least all of the above will push us into the top 4 imo


if things stay as they are, i predict 7th or 8th at best

Bang on the money!!!

Until Richard Agar can drill the above comments into his squad of players.


Then.............. [uNOTHING[/u will change!!

All talk about signing a new halfback, which will change the style of our play,
is a poor excuse for Agar's ability as a coach!!!

we could be overtaken by sides with new coaches, ie Bradford and Catalans.

I feel, i dont see any major improvements, as an attacking side.

1. New coach (who has a clue)

2. Good quality halfback (not a back-up player)

3. Big hard as nails prop

4. Attacking game plan would also be a bonus (would probably come automatically with no.1)

Until we get a decent pair of young half backs who play 20 + games a season each we will always be bit part players. Agar has known we have a problem in that department since Judas left. He has failed to act on rectifying it long term.

Briscoe needs to play at centre along with Berro and we also need a more creative 13 as opposed to yet another battering ram.

I forecast 8th at best.

What he ^said

Difference between hopes and expectations.

I'd like to see us play in a much more entertaining manner, much more fluid, much more of the style we played at Saints away.

We came 6th this year, just, with several important injuries. Next year, I'd hope to see us have a few less injuries, and would expect us to come in the top 5, hope top 4, with a win in the playoffs.

I'm hoping that we bolster our squad during the off season, too.

I expect a an Agar Out thread every time we lose a game, regardless of how well we're doing.

and every player out of form coming back from injury to be past it and that we should get rid

Hope for another year challenging to be in the top 4. Expect to have an average year and just make the 8

My expectations are to do worse than this season. Agar hasn't got a clue. it's alright getting better players in the squad, but it's also getting these player playing to coherent defensive and attacking structures, and being able to adapt when things are not going well. Agar has failed miserably on all of these, and nothing that he's shown in the last 3 season proves he's good enough in any of those departments

The half back situation isn't great, but is a smokescreen for our general poor play for me. With long and horne fit we may have won a game or two more, but we'd still have had the fundamental problems we have had all season. We are so far off the top 5 teams in the comp it's embarrassing given that we pay the same in salaries that they do.

I agree to some extent but we have a decent pack who work their balls off most weeks but nobody to capitalise on their work. All the top teams have a settled HB pairing and more importantly a plan B. I am sick and tired of hearing " if it wasn't for injuries " every team has injuries we don't hold exclusive rights. We under Agar have failed to cover for the inevitable and that's the difference between the clubs spending full on the cap.

Until we sort our shortcomings out in the centre of the park we will be lucky to make the play offs. Unless we are pulling off a major coup and getting a play off teams HB it seems evident to me that we ain't going to address the situation next season.

8th .... Lose first hurdle at play offs and quarter final challenge cup. Lose both derby matches

I've got some rope in the car?

To be peaking when the play offs arrive, hopefully with a home tie.

The semis of the cup would be nice.

Normally I try to be optimistic so I'm going for the opposite plan of attack next season then I shouldn't be disappointed

That's not a bad plan!

Where is the money for this top prop and halfback bearing in mind we already have players contracted?

We should be challenging for the top 6 imo.

I would like a couple of good signings and for us to play better rugby too.

I also hope the fans see how the season goes rather than reacting to every win/loss. The Agar out threads in reaction to every defeat are nothing short of embarrassing, lets judge them over the season, if we don't perform next season then I have no doubt Agar will be gone.

A decent style of rugby?

Long will only play 50% of the season (not his fault)
Horne will try but fail to really deliver in Longs absence.
6-8th place finish at best.
Knocked out of the playoff's at the first hurdle.
-ve points difference.
We will sign a "star half back for 2012 to replace long.
Agar will be given a contract extension as he's a nice chap as far as the board is
concerned. The new half back will "pull all of Rich's master plan together to deliver in 2012".

For me, Agar is our No1 problem.

I have not 'so far' seen anything from him, that would suggest he can or will take us above being a mediocre team. Had we still had promotion and relegation, he would have been long gone.

Summed up perfectly. And the club wont be getting a penny of my hard earned whilst it continues as this rudderless ship.